[AnnieK]

Tbf it is racings one redeeming quality in that it is the only "sport" where women and men compete alongside each other for the same pay and proze money.

Still think its cruel and shouldn't happen though

[bots]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Tbf it is racings one redeeming quality in that it is the only "sport" where women and men compete alongside each other for the same pay and proze money.

Still think its cruel and shouldn't happen though

do they recite poetry as they are racing?

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

do they recite poetry as they are racing?

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Alf

I'll take that as a victory in this discussion.

Alf wins again.

The immaturity.

[Amy Jade]

I have a horse and I absolutely adore her, yeah she is expensive to keep I won't lie and she is time consuming but she's absolutely beautiful and I couldn't ever imagine even doing anything that could result in her injury so I just don't get how anyone who claims to love their horses would put them through anything like this.

beating them to run faster and risking injury by making them jump over something they naturally would not and then seeing them foam at the mouth from exhaustion isn't something a real horse lover would do. It's cruel and I call BS on anyone partaking calling themselves animal lovers.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Alf

You honestly believe Bookies would survive how it is today without horse racing or greyhound racing?

You honestly believe many betting shops survive based on horse or greyhound racing? You're showing your age, most of them survive based on what they're taking in the machines.

[Alf]

As my report function has been disabled, I'd like to report post number 79 for being insulting and baiting. And also post number 81 for being insulting with bigotry.

If you un disable my report button, then I wouldn't need to do this in the thread.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I have a horse and I absolutely adore her, yeah she is expensive to keep I won't lie and she is time consuming but she's absolutely beautiful and I couldn't ever imagine even doing anything that could result in her injury so I just don't get how anyone who claims to love their horses would put them through anything like this.

beating them to run faster and risking injury by making them jump over something they naturally would not and then seeing them foam at the mouth from exhaustion isn't something a real horse lover would do. It's cruel and I call BS on anyone partaking calling themselves animal lovers.

What about putting humans through some of the things they have to do?

I can’t imagine putting a human on a building site, with all the dangers that are involved, it's cruel, no more building things.

I can't imagine putting a human in a factory for 12 hours a day of back breaking work for minimum wage, it's cruel. Shut down all factories.

I can’t imagine putting humans into work as delivery drivers and having to get out on those dangerous roads, it's cruel, no more deliveries.

Also, electricity is dangerous, no more electricity.

Water is dangerous, block all access to any sea, rivers, lakes.


I could go on, but you get the point.

[Alf]

Also, when a jocky falls off the horse, why does the horse always continue racing and jumping fences? That is a free choice by the horse, proving that they like racing and jumping fences.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Alf

What about putting humans through some of the things they have to do?

I can’t imagine putting a human on a building site, with all the dangers that are involved, it's cruel, no more building things.

I can't imagine putting a human in a factory for 12 hours a day of back breaking work for minimum wage, it's cruel. Shut down all factories.

I can’t imagine putting humans into work as delivery drivers and having to get out on those dangerous roads, it's cruel, no more deliveries.

Also, electricity is dangerous, no more electricity.

Water is dangerous, block all access to any sea, river, lake.


I could go on, but you get the point.

But Alf there IS a major difference its humans that have evolved to do these things ,they made cars,wheels bricks and created work, to move themselves on, animals cannot do that they are subservient to us ,humans ,WE make them do dangerous things,that is not natural to them, they don't make us do anything,everything is dangerous in some form but we dont need to put animals in more danger than we have to just for our own entertainment.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Alf

Also, when a jocky falls off the horse, why does the horse always continue racing and jumping fences? That is a free choice by the horse, proving that they like racing and jumping fences.

It proves nothing,other than they are following all the others,doesnt mean they are enjoying it,but probably they do more so than having someone whipping their backside.

[Alf]

They have better lives than us humans. They get waited on hand and foot and then when they retire they get put into the stud farm where they spend the rest of their lives shagging.

Life of luxury.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Alf

They have better lives than us humans. They get waited on hand and foot and then when they retire they get put into the stud farm where they spend the rest of their lives shagging.

Life of luxury.

only in fairy tale land Alf . and they get killed when no longer useful or get injured so their life is not better than ours,

https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/...racing/284594/

[Alf]

Here, this horse proves that if they don't want to race, then they won't.

This youtube channel is called "Horseracingkills" maybe it would interest you Kaz? It's obviously an anti-horse racing channel.

But I used one of their own videos to make my point that horses still have the free will to not race.

Youtube video

[Tom4784]

Inherently so, I'd ban it, if I could.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Inherently so, I'd ban it, if I could.

Wouldn't it be quicker to tell us the things you wouldn't ban?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Alf

Here, this horse proves that if they don't want to race, then they won't.

This youtube channel is called "Horseracingkills" maybe it would interest you Kaz? It's obviously an anti-horse racing channel.

But I used one of their own videos to make my point that horses still have the free will to not race.

Youtube video

Alf you are not going to change your mind and that is your choice, Myself , I would ban it tomorrow as I would lots of other 'sports' using animals, hopefully things in the world are changing so who knows one day you will have to find other sorts of entertainment, that doesn't involve animals. How about lining up humans and whipping them to jump and run as fast as they can,and if they break a leg, just shoot them.

Spoiler:

Tongue in cheek

Would you take part ?We are not going to agree,but thats ok, you still make me laugh

[Alf]

I'm not even a follower of Horse racing, I just have a go on the big events like Cheltenham and Grand national. When everyone does. It's traditional.

It's like Christmas, I'm not a religious person, but I still have a good old knees up for Jesus birthday.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Alf

I'm not even a follower of Horse racing, I just have a go on the big events like Cheltenham and Grand national. When everyone does. It's traditional.

It's like Christmas, I'm not a religious person, but I still have a good old knees up for Jesus birthday.

As a lot of people do I think,there is no thought for what's behind things, I think we've all done it at some point.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Alf

They have better lives than us humans. They get waited on hand and foot and then when they retire they get put into the stud farm where they spend the rest of their lives shagging.

Life of luxury.

Thats only the good ones tbf. The rubbish ones have been found starving to death in fields in the past.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Amy Jade

I have a horse and I absolutely adore her, yeah she is expensive to keep I won't lie and she is time consuming but she's absolutely beautiful and I couldn't ever imagine even doing anything that could result in her injury so I just don't get how anyone who claims to love their horses would put them through anything like this.

beating them to run faster and risking injury by making them jump over something they naturally would not and then seeing them foam at the mouth from exhaustion isn't something a real horse lover would do. It's cruel and I call BS on anyone partaking calling themselves animal lovers.

Do you ride with a whip ?

[Alf]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Thats only the good ones tbf. The rubbish ones have been found starving to death in fields in the past.

Sounds a bit like humans.