[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Let's face it she probably picked up a lot of it right here on TiBB but the staff simply are not listening one teeny tiny little bit. I honestly can't conclude anything at this point but that they (by which I mean, whoever is actually making the wider decisions, I know moderators hands may be tied) do not care. At all.

I think twitter is the much bigger culprit given some of the links that have been posted on here in recent days

[arista]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

We've had a multicultural society for almost 70 years. ITs had its ups and downs

Fair points

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

As a Scotsman who lived in England for two years trust me it is there!

It's not the majority of people by a huge stretch don't get me wrong, but those who do "take issue" don't tend to hide it.

TBF wearing an England top in Scotland... is a statement...

I had no clue lmao, I was just kid

I’m sure it happens the other way too. I just haven’t experienced it myself. I’d never say that a certain kind of people can’t receive any kind of xenophobic hate to me that’s just ignorant.

No matter where I live, I always stick out as a foreigner so I don’t really have a home town per se

It’s opened my eyes more than anything though. I am lucky to be able to see things the way I do

[Redway]

Even something as quintessentially British as tea (I prefer the herbal and Earl Greys of the world over bog-standard builders’ myself) comes from China.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

so far as I can see, Vanessa is talking about endless, unchecked immigration. She has a point, it's not racist to voice it.

Yes
it is still up to PM Starmer to stop it

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes
it is still up to PM Starmer to stop it

He should have addressed it on his speech. I think it's a big problem.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

He should have addressed it on his speech. I think it's a big problem.

Hang on,
that speech was not planned.
He was angry and he limited the Press replies.

(Across the UK Riots were going on)


Once he has started changing
the Illegal Migrant Problem.
Then he will have a new TV and Radio conference

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I think twitter is the much bigger culprit given some of the links that have been posted on here in recent days

Sure Twitter
is a problem.


But many are using "Telegram"

[Telegram, a Dubai-based chat app
that has attracted a surge of new users,
including some far-right supporters fleeing purges
at other sites]

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

The amount of hate I got in Scotland for being from England (and the US) was genuinely mind boggling. I’d have grown men get angry with me for wearing an England shirt. I felt like it was only the Scottish that were hateful, I never received any hate for being Scottish when I was in England

I think you miss read the room, us Scots sound very angry when we are happy. In sure it was all harmless banter. If not, you are visiting the wrong places. Come further south nearer the border next time.

As a Scot who lived In essex for 12 years I often wore my Scotland top and had nothing but good humoured banter thrown my way..

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by arista

Hang on,
that speech was not planned.
He was angry and he limited the Press replies.

(Across the UK Riots were going on)


Once he has started changing
the Illegal Migrant Problem.
Then he will have a new TV and Radio conference

Well I hope he mentions it. Something needs to be done. People are scared to go out, it's that bad.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by arista

Sure Twitter
is a problem.


But many are using "Telegram"

[Telegram, a Dubai-based chat app
that has attracted a surge of new users,
including some far-right supporters fleeing purges
at other sites]

Never heard of it. I'll have a look on my phone.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I think twitter is the much bigger culprit given some of the links that have been posted on here in recent days

yet you would happily post BBC links?

joke

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

But I’m not the one stating a “fact”, you are. But with no evidence to back it up.

Also I’m not talking about fines. Not mentioned them once.

You quoted some stats on offences which will include unpaid fines .. whereas I have ONLY been talking about serious violent offences / atrocities and those despicable grooming gangs


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[MTVN]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

yet you would happily post BBC links?

joke

Yes rather take my chances with a publicly funded and fully regulated broadcaster than the leader of Britain First shitposting on twitter

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

That's a terrible metric for getting at the facts.

If you'd said that a disproportionate amount of violent crime involves minorities that might be true but to say that the majority of violent crime in the UK does simply isn't the case. It involves white British males. Simple statistical fact, and one that you would expect, as the population is still (despite people's fears) 75% white British.

Not really..

Even in sport its the people who can see whats going on in a game who are the best judges of events .. the statisticians understand very little.


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[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Zizu

You quoted some stats on offences which will include unpaid fines .. whereas I have ONLY been talking about serious violent offences / atrocities and those despicable grooming gangs


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You clearly didn’t read the link in full then. It breaks things down.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Let's face it she probably picked up a lot of it right here on TiBB but the staff simply are not listening one teeny tiny little bit. I honestly can't conclude anything at this point but that they (by which I mean, whoever is actually making the wider decisions, I know moderators hands may be tied) do not care. At all.

Bit patronising?

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

That's a terrible metric for getting at the facts.

If you'd said that a disproportionate amount of violent crime involves minorities that might be true but to say that the majority of violent crime in the UK does simply isn't the case. It involves white British males. Simple statistical fact, and one that you would expect, as the population is still (despite people's fears) 75% white British.

Maybe I should have said the serious/ violent crimes are disproportionate .. though I cant recall any British offenders of serious , violent offences or atrocities in recent times .. if there have been it certainly feels like they are the in the minority


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Hang on,
that speech was not planned.
He was angry and he limited the Press replies.

(Across the UK Riots were going on)


Once he has started changing
the Illegal Migrant Problem.
Then he will have a new TV and Radio conference

These murders were nothing to do with illegal immigrants though.

He's charging the police to do all they have to in order to ensure they can deal with these riots more effectively.

This guy charged isn't an illegal immigrant.
He was BORN here.

These rioters had the totally wrong end of the stick when they went out and caused the chaos.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Maybe I should have said the serious/ violent crimes are disproportionate .. though I cant recall any British offenders of serious , violent offences or atrocities in recent times .. if there have been it certainly feels like they are the in the minority


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It seems that way but
What about the vile pedo who throw a boy off a cliff.... after he found out about him abusing his sister?.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I think twitter is the much bigger culprit given some of the links that have been posted on here in recent days

Personally, I find the suggestion that people's opinions are formed as a result of reading posts on here is pretty insulting.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Yes rather take my chances with a publicly funded and fully regulated broadcaster than the leader of Britain First shitposting on twitter

The home of Jimmy Saville, Stuart Hall, Rolf Harris, Huw Edwards. And they're just the ones we know about. And I probably missed some off that we do know about.

Not regulated too well, is it?

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Alf

The home of Jimmy Saville, Stuart Hall, Rolf Harris, Huw Edwards. And they're just the ones we know about. And I probably missed some off that we do know about.

Not regulated too well, is it?

It's output is thankfully

[Alf]

Originally Posted by MTVN

It's output is thankfully

Like newsnight. This guy was a regular on there.

Youtube video

[Alf]

Don't forget this lad on BBC's Children in need