[montblanc]

Originally Posted by Moniqua

i like kamala but she's been really disappointing as of late

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[arista]

Originally Posted by reece(:

Lucky 77 year old

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Riley.

But of course you can realise that that's not the whole reason why anyone would not support Bernie Sanders? Maybe Underscore was making a point but I don't think it's a stretch to realise that it was a part of a reason and not a whole one.

Well I'm responding to what she said, not what you think she means.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by TomC

He didn't 'discount' them, he just expressed preference, that the President is of more varied characteristics.

I don't agree with the logic, but it's not 'racist'.

Except, he also expressed not wanting a stale, pale, male on the basis of being white, a certain age and male. That's certainly racist, ageist and sexist.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Except, he also expressed not wanting a stale, pale, male on the basis of being white, a certain age and male. That's certainly racist, ageist and sexist.

Saying you would prefer to not have another white president really isn't racist sis. In fact, wanting to see more racial variety in the presidential position (which has been filled by almost exlusively white people) is...quite the contrary.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by TomC

Saying you would prefer to not have another white president really isn't racist sis. In fact, wanting to see more racial variety in the presidential position (which has been filled by almost exlusively white people) is...quite the contrary.

When your first response to discussing an actual candidate, not a hypothetical wish of the type of President, is to say "No thanks they're old, male and white" then it is a problem... sis.

The US is in enough trouble as it is without electing their next President on the basis of skin colour and gender.

If the best candidate to succeed Trump is a white man then so be it. That shouldn't be changed just to provide "racial variety". That's called positive discrimination.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

That's called positive discrimination.

Exaxtly. Racism is the wrong term.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by TomC

Exaxtly. Racism is the wrong term.

It's both. Excluding an entire race is pretty racist.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by TomC

Exaxtly. Racism is the wrong term.

It's both.

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

It's both.

We clearly have different conceptions of what racism is. I’m at peace with that.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by TomC

I’m at peace with that.

Finally.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by TomC

We clearly have different conceptions of what racism is. I’m at peace with that.

Lol do you think it's that "power+prejudice" thing sometimes posted on really cute memes on Tumble?

[TomC]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Lol do you think it's that "power+prejudice" thing sometimes posted on really cute memes on Tumble?

I don’t know what this means. And I’m not really interested. In your posts.

[JoshBB]

Glad to see a range of left-leaning Democrats stepping up to the challenge. In all honesty though, as long as the candidate is half-decent, they have a pretty good shot at overthrowing Trump. Just don't go for hillary again........

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by TomC

I don’t know what this means. And I’m not really interested. In your posts.

Th. At's okay. The. N.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Underscore

We've already had 45 male Presidents. It's time for change. Same thing for white Presidents. We've had 44.

A doctor who tea

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Underscore

How can a 77 year old (79 by 2020...) be sharp enough to run for President and be President for a further four years? He'll be 84/85 by 2024...

We've already had 45 male Presidents. It's time for change. Same thing for white Presidents. We've had 44.

Honestly, this shouldn't be a priority imo. The policies are far more important, and tokenism won't help to advance the cause of minorities in America. Of course, having the first female president is a nice afterthought, but shouldn't be the primary goal. That kind of thinking is what led to Hilary's selection, and she was an absolutely terrible candidate outside of being a woman. That was literally her only strength and it isn't one that can mobilise enough votes to win the presidency.

[bots]

if Trump is still the president in 2020 it wont matter a fig who the dems put up, they won't win. All this talk about best candidates is pointless

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

if Trump is still the president in 2020 it wont matter a fig who the dems put up, they won't win. All this talk about best candidates is pointless

I think although
Bernie is Socialist
I think he is like Trump, in a way.