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Old 13-03-2022, 06:59 AM #2326
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Soooooo .. how do you guys ( and gals?) see this situation looking in three weeks ... say 1st April ??

Much improved

Much the same

Much , much worse


I fear the worst , sadly .

Come on , put your reputation on the line !!


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Soooooo .. how do you guys ( and gals?) see this situation looking in three weeks ... say 1st April ??

Much improved

Much the same

Much , much worse


I fear the worst , sadly .

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It's not going to get better any time soon , so sadly I think worse .
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The Problem we keep getting Stale news
for 2 days they have been 15 miles from the Capital.

I can not see that
Closer, I would say.

Live is the best way to view this War,
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The Problem we keep getting Stale news
for 2 days they have been 15 miles from the Capital.

I can not see that
Closer, I would say.

Live is the best way to view this War,
Horrible way to put that

Who’s to say they’ve not invaded yet? If you were being attacked would you focus on saving yourself or making sure BBC news were informed?

I suppose soon though ‘an adviser to Zelensky has informed him Kyiv has been invaded’
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War is Horrible


Zelensky
could be in another City
That would make sense, at this time
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Soooooo .. how do you guys ( and gals?) see this situation looking in three weeks ... say 1st April ??

Much improved

Much the same

Much , much worse


I fear the worst , sadly .

Come on , put your reputation on the line !!


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If I had to guess at a conclusion, Russia will eventually accept terms and withdraw having gained territory and guarantees of no NATO or western military presence of any kind in Ukraine. However, I think he wants to do as much damage as possible before then. He wants to completely flatten major cities as a warning about what Russia is willing to do to neighbouring countries if they cross them. Massive damage to civilian lives and infrastructure as a deterrent.

To use an allegory - it's like a loanshark taking the money someone owes them and accepting they've paid up, but breaking their legs anyway as a warning not to **** around next time. He wants to come out of it seeming big and scary, in other words.

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what defines better or worse in these circumstances. An end to conflict but assassination and oppression of ukranians? or the successful defence of kyiv?


At this stage it can only get worse in my opinion
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At first I thought the longer the war went on the worse it would be for Russia but there is a danger that they keep up the invasion for so long that the world eventually becomes a bit desensitised to the war and the pressure on Russia subsides. It stops dominating the news, the West reaches the limits of what they're prepared to do, and Russia consolidates the territory it occupies while keeping forces closes to Kyiv even if it doesn't manage to topple it. Then months later Ukraine eventually feel they have no other option but to accept a peace deal which recognises Crime as Russian along with all of the Donbass and enough of the South that they have a land bridge to Crimea
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So sad ... keeping a cat safe is going to be hellishly difficult for him though ..

Pity it’s not a dawg which would have been far easier .. that said he will probably end up taking in a stray or two in the coming months


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Heartbreaking.

Yes all his family gone
the cat survived
so tragic.
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The first American Journalist.
Has been killed by Russians Troops

[Brent Renaud, a 50-year-old filmmaker,
was killed when Russian troops opened fire,
according to Andriy Nebytov, the head
of Kyiv's regional police force.
Nebytov posted a graphic photo
purportedly of Renaud's body on Facebook,
as well as pictures of his American passport
and media credentials issued by The New York Times.]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/brent-r...nalist-killed/
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["I'm not afraid of anything. It's too late to be afraid"
-- Yevgenia Albats, ballsy indy Russia journalist,
who stayed in Moscow to report on
Putin's War on #Ukraine, tells @brianstelter CNN
"I am so ashamed for my country.
I feel badly shamed."
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https://twitter.com/incrediblekulk/s...26688954826759

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Russian Missiles
hit an Area near the Poland Border.
Early Morning
Killing some (over 30) and destroying military gear
at an Ukraine Military base.

Russia yesterday warned
they will Hit any western military
arriving in their Ukraine.


Report on Ch4HDnews Live in Ukraine
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A US journalist working in Ukraine has been shot dead in the town of Irpin, outside Kyiv, police say.

Brent Renaud, 50, was a journalist and filmmaker who had previously worked for the New York Times.

Kyiv's police chief Andriy Nebytov said he had been targeted by Russian soldiers. Two other journalists were injured and taken to hospital.

It is the first reported death of a foreign journalist covering the war in Ukraine.

One of the injured journalists, Juan Arredondo, told an Italian reporter that he was with Brent Renaud when they came under fire.

"We were across one of the first bridges in Irpin, going to film other refugees leaving, and we got into a car", he said in a video published on Twitter.

"Somebody offered to take us to the other bridge and we crossed a checkpoint, and they start shooting at us. So the driver turned around, and they kept shooting; there's two of us. My friend is Brent Renaud, and he's been shot and left behind... I saw him being shot in the neck."

Photographs are circulating online showing a press ID for Renaud that was issued by the New York Times.

In a statement, the newspaper said it was "deeply saddened" to hear of Renaud's death but that he had not been working for the newspaper in Ukraine.

Renaud last worked for the publication in 2015, the Times said, and the press ID he was wearing in Ukraine had been issued years ago.

NBC News said their "thoughts and prayers" were with Renaud's family and praised the "important contributions" he made to NBC News reports, adding that he was not working for them in Ukraine.
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Young USA Reporter NYT
Killed by Russian Bullets.

Car did not say Press
not that could have changed anything



Of Course Stuart Ramsey
SkyNews
escaped with a stray bullet
he is fine, back in the UK

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