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Old 08-01-2012, 03:15 PM #1
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Default Isnt is disgusting that USA will not elect an atheist?

What is wrong with that country, when will it grow up?
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They are a bit backwards but they are kept that way for a reason.
Its easier to control people when they are uneducated.
only 37% of americans own a passport they even restrict themselves to watching sports that are more or less only played in the usa
it is staggering how isolated they are kept and the scary part is they dont even realise it.
I am obviously talking in general no american would admit to being like that but its true.


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i dont think its disgusting, it all depends what they believe in.
And i dont blame people for not liking atheism, because it is based off not believing in any god.
Therefore i dont think it's fair to go around telling people what they should not believe in.

I know some forms of catholic try to shove their religions down peoples throats, but its equal with atheists demanding to people what they shouldn't belive in and that "science" proves theirs no god, when really theres no connection between religion and evolution discovered ( you can believe in both of them, one doesn't prove the other one wrong)
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i dont think its disgusting, it all depends what they believe in.
And i dont blame people for not liking atheism, because it is based off not believing in any god.
Therefore i dont think it's fair to go around telling people what they should not believe in.

I know some forms of catholic try to shove their religions down peoples throats, but its equal with atheists demanding to people what they shouldn't belive in and that "science" proves theirs no god, when really theres no connection between religion and evolution discovered ( you can believe in both of them, one doesn't prove the other one wrong)
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I think rk3388 is just repeating the nonsense that gets spoon fed to people in an effort to get them to dislike atheists even more.
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i dont think its disgusting, it all depends what they believe in.
And i dont blame people for not liking atheism, because it is based off not believing in any god.
Therefore i dont think it's fair to go around telling people what they should not believe in.

I know some forms of catholic try to shove their religions down peoples throats, but its equal with atheists demanding to people what they shouldn't belive in and that "science" proves theirs no god, when really theres no connection between religion and evolution discovered ( you can believe in both of them, one doesn't prove the other one wrong)
Wonderful. Another "atheism is like ... totally comparable to religion it's just reversed!" argument.
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Wonderful. Another "atheism is like ... totally comparable to religion it's just reversed!" argument.
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It is sad that anyone who is not Christian doesn't have a chance becoming president, but hopefully that will change in the future.
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i dont think its disgusting, it all depends what they believe in.
And i dont blame people for not liking atheism, because it is based off not believing in any god.
Therefore i dont think it's fair to go around telling people what they should not believe in.

I know some forms of catholic try to shove their religions down peoples throats, but its equal with atheists demanding to people what they shouldn't belive in and that "science" proves theirs no god, when really theres no connection between religion and evolution discovered ( you can believe in both of them, one doesn't prove the other one wrong)
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im just trying to shed light on the situation i dont agree with it , and whats hard to understand what im saying :P
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Wonderful. Another "atheism is like ... totally comparable to religion it's just reversed!" argument.

did you read what i said?
I dont think religions should be shoved down peoples throats either!!
And i respect EVERY single religion, but im iffy on atheism because it is based on what they dont believe in rather than what they believe in themselves
I prefer - " no religion"
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I think rk3388 is just repeating the nonsense that gets spoon fed.
Acually btw i live in a city thats really multicultural but most have no religion.
Were not even allowed to put a christmas tree out in public, its quite sad really
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did you read what i said?
I dont think religions should be shoved down peoples throats either!!
And i respect EVERY single religion, but im iffy on atheism because it is based on what they dont believe in rather than what they believe in themselves
I prefer - " no religion"
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Atheism is no religion. The only people who turn it into a nice, neat 'system' of people are people like you.

If I'm an atheist I'm one by default because that's what the dictionary describes me as. Not because I conciously decided "let's be atheist". Let's go to the atheist club house and hang out and talk about atheism.

It's not a belief or adherence to anything. It's the complete opposite of that. Why would you be iffy about it just because they don't believe in anything? Do you think you need some mad belief in something spiritual to make life worthwhile?

Just ... mad really. I don't respect atheism but I do respect all religions. Even the many crazy ones that beat the shit out of women.

Or let me guess they aren't really religious and are misinterpreting your view of what it is so they don't count in your eyes?
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im just trying to shed light on the situation i dont agree with it , and whats hard to understand what im saying :P
Failed badly at the shedding light bit.

Hard to understand random illogical thoughts and bad grammar.
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Atheism is no religion. The only people who turn it into a nice, neat 'system' of people are people like you.

If I'm an atheist I'm one by default because that's what the dictionary describes me as. Not because I conciously decided "let's be atheist". Let's go to the atheist club house and hang out and talk about atheism.

It's not a belief or adherence to anything. It's the complete opposite of that. Why would you be iffy about it just because they don't believe in anything? Do you think you need some mad belief in something spiritual to make life worthwhile?

Just ... mad really. I don't respect atheism but I do respect all religions. Even the many crazy ones that beat the shit out of women.

Or let me guess they aren't really religious and are misinterpreting your view of what it is so they don't count in your eyes?
Atheism is based on the belief that their is no god is it not ?
That means it can be offensive to others because it was made to oppose other religions
And course it isnt a religion
BTW PEOPLE CAN BELIEVE WHATEVER THEY WANT- i just think if people dont have a religion they should be "no religion"
Also i would vote for people regardless of their beliefs but im just trying to see it from the other perspective which no one else seem to do
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Even the many crazy ones that beat the shit out of women.
and tell me which religion allows people to hit women or are you just making up facts now ?
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It isn't sad that america won't elect an atheist. Most americans are religious. and besides isn't mostly everyone holding a political office around the world belives in some sort of religion?

(I'm American BTW)
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Atheism is based on the belief that their is no god is it not ?
That means it can be offensive to others because it was made to oppose other religions
And course it isnt a religion
BTW PEOPLE CAN BELIEVE WHATEVER THEY WANT- i just think if people dont have a religion they should be "no religion"
Also i would vote for people regardless of their beliefs but im just trying to see it from the other perspective which no one else seem to do
Eh I don't really understand what you're saying, you seem to think Athiesm is another structured belief system just like Christianity, Islam, Hinduism etc. etc. battling it out for religious supremacy

Athiesm is "no religion", why on earth are you trying to make some kind of distinction between the two? It literally means "without Gods", what do you think is the difference between being an "Atheist" and having "no religion"?
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Atheism is based on the belief that their is no god is it not ?
That means it can be offensive to others because it was made to oppose other religions
And course it isnt a religion
BTW PEOPLE CAN BELIEVE WHATEVER THEY WANT- i just think if people dont have a religion they should be "no religion"
Also i would vote for people regardless of their beliefs but im just trying to see it from the other perspective which no one else seem to do
So Religious people get offended because people don't believe in their God? Or do they get angry because not everyone is a mindless sheep that lives their lives according to old books and fairy tales?
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Islam. But only if they are disobedient to their husband though. So that makes it ok for them.
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Eh I don't really understand what you're saying, you seem to think Athiesm is another structured belief system just like Christianity, Islam, Hinduism etc. etc. battling it out for religious supremacy

Athiesm is "no religion", why on earth are you trying to make some kind of distinction between the two? It literally means "without Gods", what do you think is the difference between being an "Atheist" and having "no religion"?
k so i know it is NOT a religion
And i stated that i will vote for people no matter what they believe but im trying to look at it from the other side
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