[Ninastar]

I'm sure this has been discussed before, but people do change their minds, plus I've not seen it spoken about in quite a while.

Of course this is only if someone is 100% guilty and there is concrete evidence that they have committed the crime in question.

I'm pretty mixed on this... In some ways I don't believe that people who commit totally gruesome crimes should get the easy way out as I believe death itself is peaceful, and that the person should have to live with their crimes for the rest of their lives.

On the other hand, I believe that if the death penalty did exist and someone killed a family member(s), I'd want them dead and I wouldn't feel at peace knowing that they were still alive, getting fed so many times a day, when there are kind people on the streets who don't eat at all.

I think most people think 'well, it depends on the case' and I totally understand that. I wouldn't want someone to get the death penalty for stealing a packet of gum from a newsagents, lol. I'm only talking about cases like mass murder, torture, terrorism etc etc...

I'd like to hear other opinions about this. I think the best way to open your mind is to have discussions with other people.

Poll coming...

[Jack_]

Absolutely not. In a nutshell it is primitive, the easy way out and completely hypocritical.

[Kizzy]

No I don't I feel it would be a massive step backwards, I would prefer they had to live with the guilt of what they had done segregated from society for the rest of their natural life.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Jack_

Absolutely not. In a nutshell it is primitive, the easy way out and completely hypocritical.

Have you had time to Visit America
its no way Primitive.
Its a Free Nation,
Fantastic.

Obey the Law
no problem.

[Northern Monkey]

No,I've never been in favour of it.Do i think some terrorists,murderers or perverts deserve to die slowly and horribly?Yes.However i don't think the state should hold such powers unless in a war situation or in a deadly situation.I do think a terrorist who is involved in an attack in progress should be shot on site though.

[Drew.]

Depends on the circumstances. Situations where people are guilty for one specific moment of killing or whatever they've done then i'd prefer to see them live out their lives with regret and not have the easy way out. I've seen documentaries where people on death row have changed for the better. When it comes to terrorists/leaders and people in general responsible for causing as many deaths as possible then i'd rather see them wiped off the earth completely.. they have no regret to live with and theres more fear knowing they're alive still.

[Jordan.]

Unless a life sentence actually meant they served life in prison I'd support it

[LukeB]

I was meant to vote mixed reviews because some criminals are not actually guilty of murdering or other crimes

[Loukas]

No, i see it as an easy option, let them rot away in prison! A life sentence should mean exactly that though, no parole, ever.

[Shaun]

One hundred percent behind life meaning life in prison but can't in all good conscience ever justify the death penalty. The very fact that it'd take me being personally affected by a murder or hideous crime is reason enough that I shouldn't be the responsible party for their punishment, it's just all very Shylock... law and justice should always be free from emotional bias.

[Firewire]

Absolutely not

[AnnieK]

I am torn on this. On one hand, taking a life for a life seems all very primitive but having said that I despise having my taxes going towards paying for scumbags who have committed heinous crimes to live in relative comfort. I would rather bring in hard labour, life meaning life without chance of parole or luxuries and let them spend the rest of their mortal lives with regret and no chance of freedom.

However, were someone to murder one of mine, I would like 10 minutes in a room with many knives..them being dead or alive won't change what's happened but I would like to extract my own revenge.

[Jamie89]

Voted no. Mainly because it's extremely rare that you can be 100% sure someone is guilty, there are too many cases of people on death row being found to be innocent on new evidence for me to be able to support it. Also, life (meaning life) in jail is a more civilised approach imo, which is what sets us apart from murderers/rapists/peodophiles etc

[Mystic Mock]

If without a shadow of a doubt the person is guilty then I don't have a problem with it as tbf at least it means that there's more space in Prisons for other crimes.

I'm not comfortable with it for the most part though as it's near impossible to prove that someone is 100% guilty.

[Braden]

I just can't get my head round the fact that some people could be put to death for a crime they did not commit.

I know it's easy to say 'only in cases where the evidence is 100% valid', but even so I don't think it's the appropriate action. And like other people have said it is quite hypocritical and the easy option.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

I am torn on this. On one hand, taking a life for a life seems all very primitive but having said that I despise having my taxes going towards paying for scumbags who have committed heinous crimes to live in relative comfort. I would rather bring in hard labour, life meaning life without chance of parole or luxuries and let them spend the rest of their mortal lives with regret and no chance of freedom.

Completely agree. Especially if it means that society will benefit in some way from their labour.

Originally Posted by AnnieK

However, were someone to murder one of mine, I would like 10 minutes in a room with many knives..them being dead or alive won't change what's happened but I would like to extract my own revenge.

I totally understand this Annie, and I'd probably feel the same if I was in that situation, but I don't think legislation should be based on the victims emotion.

[DemolitionRed]

Murder is murder, whether its the state murdering a criminal or a criminal murdering an innocent.
The death sentence doesn't deter Americans. As of July 1, 2015, there were 2,984 people on death row; this obviously changes daily.

Life should mean life.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by Jamie89

Completely agree. Especially if it means that society will benefit in some way from their labour.



I understand this Annie, and I'd probably feel the same if I was in that situation, but I don't think legislation should be based on the victims emotion.

Yeah I do agree really.....at the end of the day nothing would change other than I would have done to another family what had been done to mine. Still would want to though

[Ammi]

..I don't see any sense or logic at all in the death penalty..with murder..?..one person is dead/or people are dead, so another life is taken in return, where is the punishment../there just isn't any, the dead cannot be punished so there is no 'payment' for their crime...if my child was murdered, I still could never think that the death penalty was right or something that I would want because all that would be doing is taking the life of another mother's/parent's child and causing another family the same pain...that's something that I would never wish for or think was right...

[Johnnyuk123]

Yes get rid asap.

[joeysteele]

I have mixed views, actually in a 'fun' election game on here a few years ago,one of mine and Mocks policies was to bring it back, with very strong criteria and very long criteria needed to be fulfilled and ticked before it could be carried out.
My view does alter and overall I would be against it.

However for me the sickening events of child sexual abuse and then afterwards the murdering of that child,I find so sickening,perhaps I could be persuaded in that instance that the person should forfeit their right to life,in prison or otherwise.
Equally so, such as with that horrendous murder of Lee Rigby, the Soldier, where it was even filmed and it was clear who did the brutal murder there,I could well support the death penalty in that instance too.

On a flat question put to me however as to yes or no to bring it back, I would vote no at this moment in time.

[Black Dagger]

Absolutely not. I'm not blood thirsty enough for it.

[EspeonBB]

I'd say no just because I don't believe in punishing someone for murder or any other heinous crime by... murdering them

Plus I think it would be awful if someone got put to death and it turned out they were innocent (yeah ik it would most likely be used in cases where there is overwhelming evidence but there's no way to know for definite)

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I have mixed views, actually in a 'fun' election game on here a few years ago,one of mine and Mocks policies was to bring it back, with very strong criteria and very long criteria needed to be fulfilled and ticked before it could be carried out.
My view does alter and overall I would be against it.

However for me the sickening events of child sexual abuse and then afterwards the murdering of that child,I find so sickening,perhaps I could be persuaded in that instance that the person should forfeit their right to life,in prison or otherwise.
Equally so, such as with that horrendous murder of Lee Rigby, the Soldier, where it was even filmed and it was clear who did the brutal murder there,I could well support the death penalty in that instance too.

On a flat question put to me however as to yes or no to bring it back, I would vote no at this moment in time.

..I think the thing for me in those examples/cases, Joey...if the death penalty was there for some cases and not others..?..no matter how horrendous the crime, it's a bit like putting a value on a life or 'rating' the taking of a life....and the value of any taken life is of equal value to every family who has lost someone...

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..I think the thing for me in those examples/cases, Joey...if the death penalty was there for some cases and not others..?..no matter how horrendous the crime, it's a bit like putting a value on a life or 'rating' the taking of a life....and the value of any taken life is of equal value to every family who has lost someone...

I agree, despite some of my thoughts, I can be persuaded it is best left in the past rather than bring it back.
So all you say I can and do take on board to add to my own thinking as to this.
I always look at the plus and minus to any issue and on this one, I have far more on the minus side to supporting it,than plus.