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Old 01-12-2016, 10:48 AM #1
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I can't say I've ever experienced anything like that tbh
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....no?
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I would imagine there is a temptation, with many disorders, to excuse bad behavoir this way.
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As an "excuse"? Difficult question really. Mental disorders will often genuinely make people mistreat others... it's not necessarily an excuse, as in, it's not that they just "wanted to do it" and are falsely claiming that they can't help it. Often, they can't.

On the other hand, that's different from saying that people have to accept hurt and mistreatment just because the person dishing it out has a mental illness or personality disorder. Understanding and accepting the reasons that a person is the way they are, even forgiving them for it, is a good thing... but that doesn't mean you have to keep that person in your life, if they are having a negative impact.

Also there's a world of difference between someone who knows that they have issues that are causing them to mistreat those around them, and when they have more clarity are genuinely sorry for their actions... and someone who thinks that they "don't need to be sorry because they can't help it".
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Being cruel isn’t a characteristic of Bipolar, though she/he could have a personality disorder that co exists with Bipolar. (Bipolar is not a personality disorder)
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Yes I'm sure their first thoughts are 'Forget my mental illness, I can get away with abusing the truth x'
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Part of the illness could make them think in a way that's considered cruel.
With my daughters autism, she does not show much emotion and some times leave me feeling unloved, but that's just her autistic trait.
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I've known a wide range of people be cruel.
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Nah, if you are in the middle of a mood swing there isnt much you can do about it....interesting question though..
Im sitting next to a sufferer as i type.
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Welcome back Truth.

I don't know any bi polar people so I can't really say tbh but people generally can be cruel.
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they need to get the truth on big brother tbf. What a ridiculous thing to ask.
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My ex was (is) bi polar. When on a downer he could be awful. Very selfish, spiteful and at times cruel. It goes hand in hand with the illness. Its not intentional but doesn't make it easier to handle.
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Thankfully just an old thread bumped, he's not back. Raised an eyebrow for sure.
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My ex was (is) bi polar. When on a downer he could be awful. Very selfish, spiteful and at times cruel. It goes hand in hand with the illness. Its not intentional but doesn't make it easier to handle.
My partner suffers...funny thing is i prefer her lower mood swings to her hyper ones..

Shes trying to tell me im a trigger.
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My partner suffers...funny thing is i prefer her lower mood swings to her hyper ones..

Shes trying to tell me im a trigger.
Yeah the mania is just as hard. My ex used to be uber fun to be around but would be crazy with it and want to spend money we didn't have to maintain his mood....

I spent my life on egg shells trying to maintain the equilibrium. He is much better now as he is on meds that have stabilised his mood although he feels they have zombified him somewhat
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Yeah the mania is just as hard. My ex used to be uber fun to be around but would be crazy with it and want to spend money we didn't have to maintain his mood....

I spent my life on egg shells trying to maintain the equilibrium. He is much better now as he is on meds that have stabilised his mood although he feels they have zombified him somewhat
Was he taking anti phsychotic meds?

I have been informed it will probably be them that zombied him rather than any mood stabilizer.
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Was he taking anti phsychotic meds?

I have been informed it will probably be them that zombied him rather than any mood stabilizer.
Yeah it is Quitiapine which is anti psychotic I think. He sleeps loads now
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I don't know any bi polar people so I can't really say tbh but people generally can be cruel.
Nearly had me there too. It would have been nice to have him back. He was like a fixture here and did make some good points on some issues.
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Yeah it is Quitiapine which is anti psychotic I think. He sleeps loads now
Metazapine..in here.

After quituapine made them to drowsy to function..i cant get my head round her illness at all..it is so dibilitating without it looking like it.
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My ex is bipolar. We weren't together very long and had some really good times. He blocked me tho to break up with me because his head couldn't handle a relationship. I fortunately never encountered his truly low moments.
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Metazapine..in here.

After quituapine made them to drowsy to function..i cant get my head round her illness at all..it is so dibilitating without it looking like it.
mirtazapine? i was on that for a year, i mean it stopped me killing myself but it made me so fat lol.
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Metazapine..in here.

After quituapine made them to drowsy to function..i cant get my head round her illness at all..it is so dibilitating without it looking like it.
Indeed parmy, its hard to live with and there is nothing you can do to help so frustrating too.
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My ex is bipolar. We weren't together very long and had some really good times. He blocked me tho to break up with me because his head couldn't handle a relationship. I fortunately never encountered his truly low moments.
That is one of the hardest things to deal with, the irrational and selfish side of it
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