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Old 03-07-2018, 05:33 PM #1
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Default Sheffield Hallam MP Jared O'Mara reinstated by Labour

A Labour MP who was suspended over alleged misogynistic and homophobic comments has been reinstated.

Jared O'Mara was suspended in October over a series of online posts and claims he verbally abused a woman.

Following an investigation, the Labour Party has ruled Mr O'Mara should be issued with a formal warning and the party whip restored.

The 36-year-old unseated the former Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg as MP for Sheffield Hallam in June 2017.

A Labour Party spokesman said: "The disputes panel has ruled on the balance of the evidence that a formal warning should be issued and a mandatory requirement to attend training."

Mr O'Mara was suspended when a number of comments he posted online as a younger man were revealed by the Guido Fawkes website.

In posts made on the Drowned in Sound music website in 2004, Mr O'Mara claimed singer Michelle McManus only won the television talent show Pop Idol "because she was fat".

He also said it would be funny if jazz musician Jamie Cullum was "sodomised with his own piano" and joked about having an orgy with members of Girls Aloud.

Allegations were also made against Mr O'Mara by Sophie Evans, who said she had met the MP on a dating app before he was elected, and that he had made comments to her that "aren't broadcastable".

Mr O'Mara, who stood down from the Women and Equalities Committee after the remarks surfaced, has apologised for remarks in 2002 and 2004 but previously said he "categorically denies" Ms Evans' allegation.

Penny Baker, the Liberal Democrat councillor for Stannington, said she was "shocked" to learn about Mr O'Mara's "terrible" comments, and accused Labour of not taking them seriously.

Ms Baker said: "With this hearing, Labour had the chance to set things straight, they didn't.

"This is allowing an MP who has offended countless people with his misogynistic and homophobic comments to continue to be a member of the Labour party."

She said people in the Sheffield Hallam ward "deserve better" that Mr O'Mara.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-44698077

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So the general public need to be mindful of what they say and write, but this doesn't apply if you are a labour mp
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A Labour MP who was suspended over alleged misogynistic and homophobic comments has been reinstated.

Jared O'Mara was suspended in October over a series of online posts and claims he verbally abused a woman.

Following an investigation, the Labour Party has ruled Mr O'Mara should be issued with a formal warning and the party whip restored.

The 36-year-old unseated the former Liberal Democrat leader Nick Clegg as MP for Sheffield Hallam in June 2017.

A Labour Party spokesman said: "The disputes panel has ruled on the balance of the evidence that a formal warning should be issued and a mandatory requirement to attend training."

Mr O'Mara was suspended when a number of comments he posted online as a younger man were revealed by the Guido Fawkes website.

In posts made on the Drowned in Sound music website in 2004, Mr O'Mara claimed singer Michelle McManus only won the television talent show Pop Idol "because she was fat".

He also said it would be funny if jazz musician Jamie Cullum was "sodomised with his own piano" and joked about having an orgy with members of Girls Aloud.

Allegations were also made against Mr O'Mara by Sophie Evans, who said she had met the MP on a dating app before he was elected, and that he had made comments to her that "aren't broadcastable".

Mr O'Mara, who stood down from the Women and Equalities Committee after the remarks surfaced, has apologised for remarks in 2002 and 2004 but previously said he "categorically denies" Ms Evans' allegation.

Penny Baker, the Liberal Democrat councillor for Stannington, said she was "shocked" to learn about Mr O'Mara's "terrible" comments, and accused Labour of not taking them seriously.

Ms Baker said: "With this hearing, Labour had the chance to set things straight, they didn't.

"This is allowing an MP who has offended countless people with his misogynistic and homophobic comments to continue to be a member of the Labour party."

She said people in the Sheffield Hallam ward "deserve better" that Mr O'Mara.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-44698077

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So the general public need to be mindful of what they say and write, but this doesn't apply if you are a labour mp
That’s pretty shocking - overlooking such blatant discrimitary behaviour from one of their MPs seems to be a pattern of behaviour from the current Labour Party and completely at odds with their supposed policies in general.

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Michelle McManus probably did get an early version of the "Subo Vote", but I don't think Jamie McCallum's piano should be ruined like that. He made those comments back when those two musicians were relevant, which was a very long time ago, and the apparent comments he made to Sophie Evans were before he was even an MP. If he's made "countless misogynistic and homophobic comments" you'd think there'd be more examples.

(I hadn't even heard of him before I read this post, but reacting to what he said on a forum a long time ago is a bit much)
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That’s pretty shocking - overlooking such blatant discrimitary behaviour from one of their MPs seems to be a pattern of behaviour from the current Labour Party and completely at odds with their supposed policies in general.
A la their Teflon-coated leader, St Jeremy - and a host of others.
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Corbyn's Labour. He preaches one thing, then stands idly by while his party proves something else.
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OK what he said was pretty ****, but it was literally like 15 years ago so I don't see why he should be removed for something he said donkeys ago.
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Also I don't get how saying Michelle McManus is fat is 'misogynistic'. There are many many misogynistic comments made by a lot of people..and its generally ignored..but I don't think this comment is one of them.
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“funny if jazz musician Jamie Cullum was "sodomised with his own piano”

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I see this for what it is now, some dug up old sleaze because the guy unseated clegg and they're salty about it..

Should we collate all odd twitter ramblings from the last 15yrs for all parties and see how many volumes bojo can fill alone?
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Sounds like an average day in the chat thread
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I see this for what it is now, some dug up old sleaze because the guy unseated clegg and they're salty about it..

Should we collate all odd twitter ramblings from the last 15yrs for all parties and see how many volumes bojo can fill alone?
Yeah, you are right. 'Digging up' some 'Old Sleaze' from 15 years ago doesn't mean that this twat harbours the same ideologies now.

I mean, old Adolf wrote Mein Kampf in 1925 and he sure changed in the 15 years up to 1940. Err.... didn't he?
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To be fair to this guy....



He’s much funnier than Ariana Grande’s comedian boyfriend
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OK what he said was pretty ****, but it was literally like 15 years ago so I don't see why he should be removed for something he said donkeys ago.
There's been so many allegations about him though some of which are in the last couple of years, he's a really nasty character by all accounts
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Yeah, you are right. 'Digging up' some 'Old Sleaze' from 15 years ago doesn't mean that this twat harbours the same ideologies now.

I mean, old Adolf wrote Mein Kampf in 1925 and he sure changed in the 15 years up to 1940. Err.... didn't he?
Most people do change in 15yrs yes... I'm not the same person I was 15yrs ago, as we age we learn and we are shaped by our experiences.

Why you have chosen to bring into the debate one of the worst dictators the world has ever known I don't know, are you suggesting that he could progress from insulting Michelle McManus to gassing jews?... :/
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Most people do change in 15yrs yes... I'm not the same person I was 15yrs ago, as we age we learn and we are shaped by our experiences.

Why you have chosen to bring into the debate one of the worst dictators the world has ever known I don't know, are you suggesting that he could progress from insulting Michelle McManus to gassing jews?... :/
No - that is in YOUR head. He is a hateful enough bastard as he is.
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No - that is in YOUR head. He is a hateful enough bastard as he is.
I think that about you when you make rude, offensive, insulting and disparaging remarks about Diane Abbot with increasing regularity and voracity... but hey, if you can handle being a hypocrite ok.
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lol @ calling "I want to have an orgy with Girls Aloud" an ideology
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