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Old 24-12-2023, 05:58 PM #2226
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Its increasingly evident that politically, this has never been about hostages. Or Hamas.
Maybe so. But Hamas aren't exactly passive in all this. I didn't even mean that as whataboutery, it seems like a war between two aggressors, rather than either side defending themselves.
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The hostages would have been assumed lost on day 1. Obviously, publicly, they can't say that, but that was the reality and the fact they got back about 100 of them is beyond wildest expectations. No war, in the history of the world, has ever been decided by the fate of hostages

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Today
an 18-year-old Israeli lad
refused to do his Military Service,

He was Jailed Fast.

Ref:Al Jazeera HD Live

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Netanyahu is a problem here and will drag down the USA and UK unless he listens to some reason.

Hamas is the enemy yes.
The statement that the Israeli government and forces are taking steps to minimise the losses of Palestinian civilians is really concerning.

I cannot myself now say the Israeli government and forces are doing much right in this now.
It saddens me to say it.
However Netanyahu clearly has his own agenda.
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Netanyahu is a problem here and will drag down the USA and UK unless he listens to some reason.

Hamas is the enemy yes.
The statement that the Israeli government and forces are taking steps to minimise the losses of Palestinian civilians is really concerning.

I cannot myself now say the Israeli government and forces are doing much right in this now.
It saddens me to say it.
However Netanyahu clearly has his own agenda.
pretty sure this will likely lead to more terror attacks in the USA and UK and it'll then be Netanyahu's fault


Hamas is the enemy yup correct who need to be defeated, and even the Pope is right, this isn't war anymore this is also terrorism from Israel onto the civilians in Gaza
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the usa and the uk are not as vocal in their support now. They still support them but they wont shout about it so much. They will support behind closed doors
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USA secretary Blinkin
is flying to Jordan.

He is speaking Live in Crete, Greece
he wants to help get the hostages released.

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I'm really saddened by the rhetoric coming from Netanyahu and the Israeli government.

It seems too, many Israeli citizens are too.

This is an extremely worrying conflict and only seems to have the potential to bring about more and more losses of lives of innocents.
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I'm really saddened by the rhetoric coming from Netanyahu and the Israeli government.

It seems too, many Israeli citizens are too.

This is an extremely worrying conflict and only seems to have the potential to bring about more and more losses of lives of innocents.
Israeli rhetoric hasn't changed for decades. It's a shame that people either chose not to listen, or pretended it wasn't real.
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[Senior Hezbollah Commander
killed in an Israeli strike
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[Wissam Tawil, a senior commander with
the Islamist Hezbollah movement,
has been killed in an Israeli drone bomb
attack in southern Lebanon
Reports suggest a car Tawil was in
was targeted in the Khirbet Selm area,
before veering off the road and catching fire]

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UK and US naval forces have repelled the largest attack yet by Yemen's Houthi rebels on Red Sea shipping, UK Defence Secretary Grant Shapps says.

Carrier-based jets and warships shot down 21 drones and missiles launched by the Iran-backed group overnight.

The Houthis said they targeted a US ship in retaliation for the killing of rebels who tried to attack a container ship by using speed boats last month.

Mr Shapps said he had "no doubt" that Iran was heavily behind such attacks.

Asked about possible Western strikes on Houthi targets in Yemen in response, he said: "Watch this space."

The Houthis have carried out 26 attacks on commercial shipping in the Red Sea since 19 November, according to the US military.

The group has claimed - often falsely - that it is targeting ships linked to Israel in protest at Israeli actions during the war in the Gaza Strip.

The US military said Iranian-designed one-way attack drones, anti-ship cruise missiles and anti-ship ballistic missiles were launched from Houthi-controlled areas of Yemen towards international shipping lanes in the southern Red Sea at around 21:15 local time (18:15 GMT) on Tuesday.

Eighteen drones, two cruise missiles and one ballistic missile were shot down by F/A-18 warplanes from the aircraft carrier USS Dwight D Eisenhower, which is deployed in the Red Sea, and by four destroyers, the USS Gravely, USS Laboon, USS Mason and HMS Diamond.

HMS Diamond shot down seven Houthi drones using its Sea Viper missiles and guns, a defence source told the BBC. Each of the missiles costs more than Ł1m ($1.3m).

No injuries or damage were reported.

Later, Houthi military spokesman Yahya al-Sarea confirmed that its forces had carried out an operation involving "a large number of ballistic and naval missiles and drones".

"It targeted a US ship that was providing support for the Zionist entity [Israel]," he said.

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UK and US naval forces have repelled the largest attack yet by Yemen's Houthi rebels on Red Sea shipping, UK Defence Secretary Grant Shapps says.

Carrier-based jets and warships shot down 21 drones and missiles launched by the Iran-backed group overnight.

The Houthis said they targeted a US ship in retaliation for the killing of rebels who tried to attack a container ship by using speed boats last month.

Mr Shapps said he had "no doubt" that Iran was heavily behind such attacks.

Asked about possible Western strikes on Houthi targets in Yemen in response, he said: "Watch this space."

The Houthis have carried out 26 attacks on commercial shipping in the Red Sea since 19 November, according to the US military.

The group has claimed - often falsely - that it is targeting ships linked to Israel in protest at Israeli actions during the war in the Gaza Strip.

The US military said Iranian-designed one-way attack drones, anti-ship cruise missiles and anti-ship ballistic missiles were launched from Houthi-controlled areas of Yemen towards international shipping lanes in the southern Red Sea at around 21:15 local time (18:15 GMT) on Tuesday.

Eighteen drones, two cruise missiles and one ballistic missile were shot down by F/A-18 warplanes from the aircraft carrier USS Dwight D Eisenhower, which is deployed in the Red Sea, and by four destroyers, the USS Gravely, USS Laboon, USS Mason and HMS Diamond.

HMS Diamond shot down seven Houthi drones using its Sea Viper missiles and guns, a defence source told the BBC. Each of the missiles costs more than Ł1m ($1.3m).

No injuries or damage were reported.

Later, Houthi military spokesman Yahya al-Sarea confirmed that its forces had carried out an operation involving "a large number of ballistic and naval missiles and drones".

"It targeted a US ship that was providing support for the Zionist entity [Israel]," he said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-67932725

We are far too soft and that’s why the country is essentially dying before our very eyes .


Shapps as apparently said if the attackers ( Iran) continue then we will ( may ) do something.

Can you imagine any other country saying that as a deterrent


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then the US don't need to support the genocide loving nations, easy

otherwise you get attacked as well
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Nothing justifies the killing of children.
This is maas scale genocide.
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Incredible.
Just awful and heartbreaking to even think of the slaughtering going on.
Never mind knowing it is.

This is awful.
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Just awful and heartbreaking to even think of the slaughtering going on.
Never mind knowing it is.

This is awful.
Those poor children
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US and UK forces have begun air strikes against Houthi rebel targets in Yemen, US officials say.

A senior Houthi has said that "hostile actions" by the US, UK or Israel will not "distract us from defending Gaza".

Abdulsalam Jahaf posted on X (in Arabic): "We will confront America, kneel it down, and burn its battleships and all its bases and everyone who co-operates with it, no matter what the cost."

He also vowed that the Houthis would "continue to target Zionist ships and those going to [Israel]".

"We will tread on America with our feet," he continued, adding that his words should be taken neither as a threat nor a warning.

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More absolutely shameful behaviour.
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Has anyone been following South Africa trial against Israel?
Interesting stuff. I really hope Palestine win their case. Genocide is never justified.
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UK Jets take off from cyprus



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Incredible.
…such an outstandingly powerful speech from Blinne Ni Ghralaigh…it’s impossible to imagine the horrors in Gaza atm, the horror that has become an everyday world …words just couldn’t describe and yet somehow, her words did describe every brutal act…her words bring it all into vision and you could feel how much those in the room felt that too…
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