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Louise Tickle accuses the newspaper of ‘deceiving its readers’ for using the
word ‘woman’ in its headline ![]() A writer for the Guardian has boycotted the newspaper for failing to tell its readers that a cat killer who murdered a stranger was transgender. Scarlet Blake, a 26-year-old trans woman, was found guilty last week of murdering Jorge Martin Carreno in July 2021 on his way home from a night out, four months after Blake’s Netflix-inspired killing of a cat. Louise Tickle, an award-winning journalist who has written for the Guardian for more than 20 years, has accused the newspaper of “deceiving its readers” for using the word “woman” in its headline and omitting the fact Blake was transgender in an article covering the case. In a letter to Katharine Viner, the newspaper’s editor, Ms Tickle said: “I’ve contributed to the Guardian for nearly two and a half decades, but as a result of an utterly dismaying news piece published on Friday, I cannot do so again until I’m confident that the Guardian is able to demonstrate that its reporters, editors and management understand what constitutes a fact, and stops deceiving its readers.” Ms Tickle explained that upon reading the article online last Friday, she was left unaware that Blake was a “male killer”. “How could I?,” she said. “The headline used the word ‘woman’ and nowhere in the piece did I pick up any reference to the killer being transgender. “My understanding is that I didn’t just miss the word ‘transgender’ – that word was not included in the piece. “So, as far as I – and as far as any of your other readers were concerned that day – a woman had committed an extraordinarily depraved and sexually motivated murder of a man, after having carried out a hideous act of animal cruelty,” she added in the letter to Ms Viner. ‘It is disgraceful’ The journalist then claims that when she went back to look at the piece again the following day it had been changed; “the headline was altered to remove the word ‘woman’ and the word ‘transgender’ was added, in the fifth paragraph down (after references to ‘woman’ and ‘she’ in the text above).” She added: “Many people will not read that far, and so Guardian readers are still being led to believe that a woman has committed this crime.” Ms Tickle accused the newspaper of “actively deceiving readers into believing that there is a sudden upsurge in women engaged in violent, homicidal and sexually motivated criminality”. “It is disgraceful. There is no excuse for it. Sometimes people suggest that the anger around this kind of factually inaccurate reporting is overblown, performative, unkind, or petty. It is not,” she wrote. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...r-transgender/ |
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[Louise Tickle, an award-winning journalist
who has written for the Guardian for more than 20 years, has accused the newspaper of “deceiving its readers” for using the word “woman” in its headline and omitting the fact Blake was transgender in an article covering the case.] Yes, the Guardian are in the wrong again. |
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![]() This is the murderer who is a man but now identfies as trans woman Id hope that the judge send to a male prison? |
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Good for her, journalists with standards are rare
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"Id hope that the judge send to a male prison?"
Yes, after what went down in Scotland. |
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The thing about it is, these things have real life consequences, it's misrepresenting facts and causing statistics to be incorrect. Sexually motivated attacks are overwhelmingly male crimes and we need correct information around this so people can be protected properly
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I agree, especially when reporting crimes
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This type of reporting and indeed recording by the police is going go skew violence by women massively and will have consequences in the future, its bad enough now where violence against women and girls is not taken particularly seriously in a lot of court cases, wait until there is the argument that women count for more cases of violence against other women more than men ![]()
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Last edited by Cherie; 26-02-2024 at 01:14 PM. |
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In the main DT article
"Scarlet Blake, a 26-year-old transgender woman, was found guilty on Friday of killing Jorge Carreno in July 2021, having hit him on the back of the head with a vodka bottle before strangling him and pushing him into the River Cherwell, where he drowned." that is how it should be and no one is hoodwinked |
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Its just been on LBC that this 'woman' has received 24 years ....24 years for live streaming the killing of a cat and murdering a man in cold blood....what is going on
I will be following this to see what prison they go to
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Sadly that's not all that unusual, I honestly doubt there'd have been jail time at all just for the cat-murder. There'd have been charges, certainly, but I doubt there'd have been a custodial sentence.
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Good the BBC said Trans Women, He/She got Life in Jail. [A murderer who led a man to his death and livestreamed the killing of a cat months before has been jailed for a minimum of 24 years. Scarlet Blake, 26, hit Jorge Martin Carreno before pushing him into the River Cherwell in Oxford in July 2021.] https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-englan...shire-68401335 Last edited by arista; 26-02-2024 at 05:22 PM. |
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Talksport just reporting that a woman called Scarlett Blake sadistically strangled an adult male to death on their main bulletins
Not sure if they are complicit or just too lazy to investigate either way its wrong |
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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https://news.sky.com/story/scarlet-b...g-man-13081049
…the very last sentence of the article… It is understood Blake will serve her sentence in a men's prison. Last edited by Ammi; 26-02-2024 at 06:24 PM. |
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…I just don’t understand the sentencing of these things and how a life sentence can be a ‘minimum of 24 years…’…surely that’s one of the biggest problems in our justice system and why each case can’t be looked at individually …in this case, life should be life as the person has said that one day they’ll kill their parents…’I would murder my mum for you…I also want to kill my dad one day…maybe when they are old I can just put a respirator with pure nitrogen on their faces while they sleep…’….and yet, a minimum term of 24 years would mean this person was free to do just that to their parents…?…none of that intent is because of anything sexual or because something was watched on Netflix…this is someone who life should mean life for…forever, for the safety of all…
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Mr Martin Carreno's family paid tribute to "an extraordinary being full of passion and kindness". He was one of three triplet brothers.
They said in a statement: "Today, his absence leaves a deep wound in our hearts. His life was stolen, cutting short his projects and dreams." Mr Martin Carreno's mother added that her son "aspired to build a better world" and was an "incredibly good person". |
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wow i know it makes no difference to a murder but one of triplets...
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Schrödinger's Quato
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Part of what makes it skew the statistics so badly is the tendency to completely ignore the physical reality of gender differences... people will flat out deny tat they're as big as they are.
Fact is, unless it's a particularly small/thin male and a particularly large and strong female (e.g. a heavy gym user) it's simply very unlikely that a female COULD successfully strangle an adult man to death with their bare hands. Yes they could sneak up on someone unawares and garrote them with a rope or cord, but not bare hands face to face. Literally almost impossible. And that's before even going into the fact that extreme violence in general comes from biological males. It's important that we know and understand this. Skewing the stats for any reason is terrible. |
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Metro "Newspaper" tells women to shut their mouths...
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