[smudgie]

Originally Posted by arista

Some of what she says
is more extreme than what Tibb's Ammi says.


Waitrose shopping in the back of her car.

God forbid anything nast ever happens to her or her family.
Heartless comment

[Crimson Dynamo]

Really interesting theories by a Brit who used to live on the island!

https://www.tiktok.com/@darthunicorn...136288?lang=en

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

……I haven’t listened to what she said but surely it can’t be THAT extreme to be on a level with my extreme views…tell me it isn’t so…

…(…I would rarely click on anything she says, though…)…

She is going on about speak your mind.

And says Jay was wrong on

Mentions Class A
Drugs

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by arista

This Image is a Terrible Remix
posted on X.

I just realised it’s fake LOL

Thought he looked familiar !!


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[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Really interesting theories by a Brit who used to live on the island!

https://www.tiktok.com/@darthunicorn...136288?lang=en

He has reiterated all my thoughts about this case

[Ammi]

…I think what’s true in the world we live in…with a huge ‘event’ in a family’s lives such as this, which gains so much media attention etc…there are two main nightmare layers to cope with…one is obviously the search itself…the other is the cruelty of social media …both very destroying, I would imagine…

[Denver]

Some things I want to point out

Both Brad and Lucy claim to have been the last to speak to him before his battery died but how is that possible?

Why is Brads mom in charge if a fb group and oart of the search and doing everything in her power to clear her sons name who has already flown home which is weird if you so called childhood best freind is missing.
The man who rented the air bnb was Lucy step dad

Why has his mom shown zero emotion and kept pushing the fact he was kidnapped with no proof at that time

Why do they need 30k but have not said what for? They are getting free food and accommodation in Spain.

Lucy and her step dad are known drugs mules in the area.
Was he even in the mountains to start? It seems suspicious that they have found no evidence or the dogs have been unable to find his scent anywhere or any blood from the leg injury he apparently had.

Why did his freinds allow him to go with strangers when he was clearly in no fit state to do so?

Lucy is freinds with Tom (who may I add is a pedo so please no sympathy) who ws attacked by a group Jay was involved in and he was in Tenerife at the time he
was missing.

Why are they not searching other places that they have been spottings of him.

Lucy started a gofund me last year for another man who went missing in the same area who was then found a week later beaten.

If he is mixed up in drugs than he is no longer in tenerife and is either being held hostage in Morocco or his body was dumped in the middle of the sea.

There was a boat that left the port near where he was apparently last seen at around the same time then turned its tracker off.

My gut feelings is it is all a scam to make money especially when his social media was logged into and im not buying the fact he told his mom all his passwords and you would need his phone to access it.

I also feel that he had nothing tk do with the missing drugs but is being blamed as an easy target.

Also a possibility its a revenge attack and I wouldn't entirely rule out being a victim of human trafficking

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

He has reiterated all my thoughts about this case

Yes I would put him on TV talking about it

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Denver

Some things I want to point out

Both Brad and Lucy claim to have been the last to speak to him before his battery died but how is that possible?

The man who rented the air bnb was Lucy step dad

Why has his mom shown zero emotion and kept pushing the fact he was kidnapped with no proof at that time

Why do they need 30k but have not said what for? They are getting free food and accommodation in Spain.

Lucy and her step dad are known drugs mules in the area.
Was he even in the mountains to start? It seems suspicious that they have found no evidence or the dogs have been unable to find his scent anywhere or any blood from the leg injury he apparently had.

Why did his freinds allow him to go with strangers when he was clearly in no fit state to do so?

Lucy is freinds with Tom (who may I add is a pedo so please no sympathy) who ws attacked by a group Jay was involved in and he was in Tenerife at the time he
was missing.

Why are they not searching other places that they have been spottings of him.

Lucy started a gofund me last year for another man who went missing in the same area who was then found a week later beaten.

If he is mixed up in drugs than he is no longer in temerity and is either being held hostage in Morocco or his body was dumped in the middle of the sea.

There was a boat that left the port near where he was apparently last seen at around the same time then turned its tracker off.

My gut feelings is it is all a scam to make money especially when his social media was logged into and im not buying the fact he told his mom all his passwords and you would need his phone to access it.

I also feel that he had nothing tk do with the missing drugs but is being blamed as an easy target.

Also a possibility its a revenge attack and I wouldn't entirely rule out being a victim of human trafficking

Yes, there's something very very odd about this whole thing

[bots]

they know his phone was in that park area because it pinged from there when he made the calls

[Denver]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they know his phone was in that park area because it pinged from there when he made the calls

But that story makes zero sense has he apparently made the call but its now been proven Lucy made the call.

So she claimed he called to say he was lost and instead of going straight there she rang the police and reported him missing but now we know it was her who made the call so my feeling is she had his phone and put it in the mountain ready for someone far away using her phone to call his.

There is proof his phone was there but there has been zero proof found other than a witness saying he asked for a bus that he actually was there.

Also why did she set up the go fund me straight away with out the knowledge of his family

[bots]

whatever, they have records showing where the phone was located

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they know his phone was in that park area because it pinged from there when he made the calls

Had he been kidnapped prior and this whole story been concocted it would have been easy to take his phone and make a short call from there knowing that it would be traceable

The snapchat "he sent" from the villa was a blurred pic of a hand holding a cigarette

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Yes, there's something very very odd about this whole thing

Not what part if this story has screamed missing person at all

[bots]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Had he been kidnapped prior and this whole story been concocted it would have been easy to take his phone and make a short call from there knowing that it would be traceable

The snapchat "he sent" from the villa was a blurred pic of a hand holding a cigarette

yeah, it's only proof his phone was there, nothing more

[Denver]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

whatever, they have records showing where the phone was located

And they searched the area non stop for days with no dna evidence he was there.

Also I find it dodgy how the Spanish police rejected helk from the British police? Wouldn't more feet on the ground be better? And why are they telling people where to search? Thats wild how they are saying go look there as if they are aware they know they won't find anything

[Denver]

I do think the police are involved in the cover up ,

[bots]

they don't want outside help because all they do is get in the way. You can try and find conspiracies if you like, but its probably one of two options

1. It's an elaborate scam to raise some cash

2. The guy has been killed, and that's probably entirely down to the company that he kept

Either way, they didn't scam me, and i'm not bothered about the safety of someone with a proven violent record

[Denver]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they don't want outside help because all they do is get in the way. You can try and find conspiracies if you like, but its probably one of two options

1. It's an elaborate scam to raise some cash

2. The guy has been killed, and that's probably entirely down to the company that he kept

Either way, they didn't scam me, and i'm not bothered about the safety of someone with a proven violent record

Criminal record doesn't exactly mean they deserve to be tortured or murdered though does it? And the British police would be of higher help to the Spanish especially when it comes to intelligence and being able to track down british witnesses and why are the Spanish police even refusing to speak with the British police over a British resident ? There is a huge possibility he may not even be in Spain and if that's the case then the British need to know

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Denver

Criminal record doesn't exactly mean they deserve to be tortured or murdered though does it? And the British police would be of higher help to the Spanish especially when it comes to intelligence and being able to track down british witnesses and why are the Spanish police even refusing to speak with the British police over a British resident ? There is a huge possibility he may not even be in Spain and if that's the case then the British need to know

There's a difference though to not being bothered and thinking someone deserves to be tortured/murdered.

I agree with BOTS though, i doubt the Police are involved

[Quantum Boy]

It's not really a conspiracy to ask if the police are involved, if drugs and organised crime are involved, then the police are most likely also involved. Police corruption in Tenerife is sky high.

Seriously have a look into the "underside" of Tenerife (and most of these "party destination" islands) - fascinating stuff, and local law enforcement is 100% firmly interwoven with organised crime, either direct involvement or simply a tacit agreement to turn a blind eye.

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by Denver

There is a huge possibility he may not even be in Spain and if that's the case then the British need to know

Tenerife is nowhere near mainland Spain.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Tenerife is nowhere near mainland Spain.

Still part of Spain though, my feeling is he is either in Morocco or floating in the sea half way to Morocco

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by Denver

Still part of Spain though, my feeling is he is either in Morocco or floating in the sea half way to Morocco

Yeah I just mean if he is alive and not still on Tenerife, he's more likely to be somewhere in North Africa than in Spain.

[bots]

lets put it this way. If he had been wandering around injured the likelihood is that they would have found him by now. So either he has been done in, or it was all a big scam. Either way, we know searchers have been out looking, with dogs. It's not like they are looking in the wrong area from the information provided and what would be gained from walking past a dead body. So, really, whether the police are corrupt or not is largely irrelevant.

What we do know is that the family and friends are dealing with it all quite strangely. I'm pretty sure the spanish police will give up the search pretty soon, and then it will all be forgotten about. It doesn't grab the interest like Madeline did