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19-07-2024, 02:33 PM | #76 | |||
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19-07-2024, 02:37 PM | #77 | |||
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Schrödinger's Quato
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19-07-2024, 04:07 PM | #78 | |||
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שטח זה להשכרה
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What a dick.
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19-07-2024, 05:03 PM | #79 | |||
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19-07-2024, 05:37 PM | #80 | |||
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self-oscillating
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why can't people just talk about how disgusting an incident it was rather than trying to further well worn agendas?
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19-07-2024, 05:43 PM | #81 | |||
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This Witch doesn't burn
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Can anyone explain why this caused a riot, surely this is a good thing??????
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19-07-2024, 06:00 PM | #82 | |||
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19-07-2024, 06:07 PM | #83 | |||
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I agree but honestly most riots start over the stupidest thing and only continue because people wanna destroy and loot things
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19-07-2024, 06:08 PM | #84 | |||
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Most likely mechanism is that the family starts kicking off (for obvious reasons), their friends join in support... then after that, it's basically just people piggybacking off the unrest as an excuse to cause chaos (like any other riot). 90% of the people there aren't rioting about the actual thing that sparked it.
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19-07-2024, 06:12 PM | #85 | |||
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Sod orf
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19-07-2024, 06:16 PM | #86 | |||
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I think I'm a banana tree
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Do you mean the guy who was trying to stop them?
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19-07-2024, 06:26 PM | #87 | |||
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19-07-2024, 06:29 PM | #88 | |||
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I think I'm a banana tree
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I didn't say he succeeded they were too far gone. But he was trying to stop them from setting fire to the bus and adding accelerants to the fires.
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19-07-2024, 08:58 PM | #89 | |||
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I agree.
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19-07-2024, 09:07 PM | #90 | |||
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I think you think that most right-wingers (as you refer to them as, I'm not right-wing, I'm centre ground) blame the Muslims. They Don't blame them, they understand that they're just taking advantage of weakness. It's the people facilitating this destruction of our home that are to blame.
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20-07-2024, 06:56 AM | #91 | |||
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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…apparently, according to articles…the riots began because it was a Roma family that social services were called to …and any type of ‘intervention’ from outside services would be very unwanted and unwelcome…hence the local Roma community becoming involved….that is the report atm…
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20-07-2024, 06:58 AM | #92 | |||
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20-07-2024, 09:24 AM | #93 | |||
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Police have arrested 5 people,
more arrests are to come All Media. Last edited by arista; 20-07-2024 at 09:33 AM. |
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20-07-2024, 12:58 PM | #94 | |||
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But keep it for the fields of foreign lands mr romany gypsy. |
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20-07-2024, 01:18 PM | #95 | |||
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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…and following on from social services involvement in a matter/concern that was reported within a Roma community family…and what’s said to have sparked the rioting…
Leeds City Council has said it is conducting an "urgent review" of a "family matter" that sparked rioting in the Harehills area. Home Secretary Yvette Cooper condemned the scenes of violence that were shared widely on social media on Thursday evening. She warned that perpetrators of the "audacious criminality" would "face the full force of the law". On Friday, representatives of the Roma community met with Leeds City Council to "express concerns about a family matter" that took place on 18 July. Previously, police said officers had been called out around 5pm on Thursday "after social workers reported being met with hostility when dealing with a child protection matter". They said responding officers were attacked, and helped social staff withdraw "to a place of safety". Following this, disorder escalated into the riots and violence that left a bus burning and a police car flipped over. On Friday, the council said it had agreed to undertake an urgent review of the case and work with the Romanian and Roma community moving forward. A council statement added: "The Romanian and Roma community have played a fantastic role in the community and have contributed much to the diversity and richness of the Harehills. "We want this work to continue, and develop further work that makes Harehills an even better place to work and live. "The events of last night will not help our community or the family. "We need to work together with the authorities to ensure that best outcomes for the community, and to ensure our voices are heard at the highest level so we can avoid such scenarios in the future." Speaking also on Friday evening, Ms Cooper said: "It's important that people can feel safe on their streets and the perpetrators feel the full force of the law. "We've seen issues around misinformation with police having to respond to a complex child protection issue. "Many people will have seen on social media some of the shocking scenes of audacious criminality, and that's why it's so important that those people face the full force of the law." This comes as West Yorkshire Police said they had arrested five people following the riots and scenes of violence. Officers have said more arrests are expected in the coming days. The riots, the force said, broke out in the Harehills area on Thursday. After initially responding, police withdrew from the unrest that escalated into violence, leading to a police vehicle being flipped, rocks and bottles being thrown and several fires set - including a bus being lit on fire. Assistant Chief Constable Pat Twiggs said: "We continually assessed the situation and took the decision to deploy specialist public order officers who then came under a barrage of bricks and missiles from a large group." Then, a decision was made to withdraw officers when it became "evident that the police was their sole target", in order to calm tensions. Read more: Several arrests made over rioting in Leeds 'Very visible police presence' on streets of Leeds after riot Residents were warned to stay home as local councillors tried in person and on social media to calm the crowds and ease the disorder. Green Party councillor for Gipton and Harehills Mothin Ali described the scenes as "absolute mayhem" and called for the community to stay calm after the incident. Speaking from the scene on Friday, he said: "The scene was absolute mayhem. It was quite chaotic. "We were trying to shelter the police, act as human shields for the police, because they were there without helmets, without shields, being pelted with bricks and bottles, so we were trying to calm people down and act as a protective barrier." Mr Ali said local officers had been "fantastic" but he said withdrawing had been the wrong decision. |
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20-07-2024, 01:39 PM | #96 | |||
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20-07-2024, 02:44 PM | #97 | |||
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You don’t often hear about ppl trying to shield the police so that’s nice of the harehills folk at least
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20-07-2024, 03:37 PM | #98 | |||
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I've seen multiple videos online of the local community - mainly Pakistani - trying to stop rioters and protect building/put out fires. Often started by people of other races (such as white).
This will not fit the preferred narrative on here though so you'll only see the agenda-driven race bait videos. |
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20-07-2024, 08:32 PM | #99 | |||
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It's got nothing to do with ethnicities.
It's about a community standing up to the system. |
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20-07-2024, 08:58 PM | #100 | |||
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It's complicated really, I imagine they weren't doing a brilliant job of looking after the kids properly, but on the other hand, the care system and family courts are an absolute horror show as well. It's not like they were being taken away somewhere great. Obviously there's not a lot of info on what was actually going on, but I don't automatically trust that when social work is taking kids away, it's always "for the right reasons".
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