[bots]

i'm optimistic about a Kamala win, and at the end of the day, it's a positive vibe, and if enough americans feel the same, she will win. It's that simple

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Alf

Yeah, boys will be boys. They like to brag about their conquests. Sometimes they exaggerate too.

Would you still be ok if Kamala was caught on film/ tape bragging about grabbing guy's balls ? . Or would it be unacceptable? Lol . I personally would have the same reaction...as whether it's lockeroom talk or not , it would still be inappropriate.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Would you still be ok if Kamala was caught on film/ tape bragging about grabbing guy's balls ? . Or would it be unacceptable? Lol . I personally would have the same reaction...as whether it's lockeroom talk or not , it would still be inappropriate.

Well I just said I wasn't that bothered that she comes from a family of slave owners, so what do you think?

The thing is. I know that she was a bit of a promiscuous lady. There's lots of her college days stories that she was a frat girl. I didn't even know what a frat girl was, I had to google it. It's more of an American saying than it is a British one. I think we say Slag or slut.

Many claims of her sleeping her way to the top too. So yeah. I expect she has some filthy anecdotes to tell her friends.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i'm optimistic about a Kamala win, and at the end of the day, it's a positive vibe, and if enough americans feel the same, she will win. It's that simple

She has 2 hopes

Bob Hope and Nae Hope

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

You obviously know sweet f all about Harris

I just watched a video of trump talking about electric boats and sharks. Literally ANYTHING is better than that.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Alf

Well I just said I wasn't that bothered that she comes from a family of slave owners, so what do you think?

The thing is. I know that she was a bit of a promiscuous lady. There's lots of her college days stories that she was a frat girl. I didn't even know what a frat girl was, I had to google it. It's more of an American saying than it is a British one. I think we say Slag or slut.

Many claims of her sleeping her way to the top too. So yeah. I expect she has some filthy anecdotes to tell her friends.

If she has ' filthy' anecdotes then I guess she has something in common with Trump,as we all know he's been around the block a few times.

They all have a past ,I'm not even invested enough to care who wins. If I was in America would I vote ..not sure ......but as like many I have very little faith in politics these days. I didn't even vote in the UK election.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

If she has ' filthy' anecdotes then I guess she has something in common with Trump,as we all know he's been around the block a few times.

They all have a past ,I'm not even invested enough to care who wins. If I was in America would I vote ..not sure ......but as like many I have very little faith in politics these days. I didn't even vote in the UK election.

she was 29 and went out with a 60 year old for personal gain

utterly vile woman

[Alf]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

If she has ' filthy' anecdotes then I guess she has something in common with Trump,as we all know he's been around the block a few times.

They all have a past ,I'm not even invested enough to care who wins. If I was in America would I vote ..not sure ......but as like many I have very little faith in politics these days. I didn't even vote in the UK election.

Your faith will be restored when Trump wins and he returns the power to the people.

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

she was 29 and went out with a 60 year old for personal gain

utterly vile woman

Donald Trump met Melania Trump when she was 28, and he was 52.

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by Alf

Your faith will be restored when Trump wins and he returns the power to the people.

My honest prediction is that he'll win but won't do anything particularly big with his 4 years, just as he didn't do anything particularly big between 2017 and 2021. We should bookmark these posts and check back in early 2029 .

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

she was 29 and went out with a 60 year old for personal gain

utterly vile woman

And Trump slept with a raging hardcore porn star ....so what's your point? .

[Alf]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

And Trump slept with a raging hardcore porn star ....so what's your point? .

Youtube video

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Alf

Yeah, boys will be boys. They like to brag about their conquests. Sometimes they exaggerate too.

Women talk like that too, especially in private as "girl code". Men are much more brazen and braggy out in the open, but girls talk **** a huge amount too. It's way more common than people think. So it's not just a male thing, by any means. I guess I'm the listening type because I attract people who want to be listened to, but some will be very brazen about the things they think and are up to. One girl I knew was very brazen about cheating/sleeping around and calling their current boyfriend a total loser because they didn't give XYZ as a gift or were doing "this" or "that' wrong. The usual bullsh*t. She was enjoying the power she held over men.

Only several years later to have gotten a marriage proposal and then being everything about this marriage and wanting to make that their world. I didn't really care for the negative chatter, but I thought how sad that they thought of relationships that way and didn't understand how to make the most of life. I asked some questions but there's no point in trying to change what I can't change. Not that I had a clue then, anyway Still, there was an age gap and she told me some things that still make me think. Not quite a role model or anything, but just a person who isn't afraid to be human to another human being...

Anyway, I didn't have any real expectations. Years later I saw her, that boyfriend proposed. She did seem to enter into a strange mindset where she looked forward to the future, but also anxious and just seemed somewhat more depressed compared to before. Maybe she realized what her past had been or maybe she wasn't actually looking forward. I didn't pry. She was trying to get her life straight and that was a huge focus. Her very much not an asshole then boyfriend was trying to help her including his family to try to be her rock, but she seemed super anxious about the future because she spent her high school years literally *******ing around (her words) and staying up all nights clubbing and drinking. She was clearly humbled by something. Now she had to catch up really quickly. She was a senior for 3-4 years, ffs. I don't think people always stay the same and I hope she figured things out. People are obviously not perfect and I get rid of that expectation as quickly as possible when I meet people.

That doesn't make them any person any less of an asshole who engages in that behavior. I'm not going to say "You get 'em, girl!". However, I think on average, people who are like this are just more honest about it. Whether they're honest with themselves, is a whole different matter. I don't actually know and I leave that between other people and God. But men who talk like this remind me of that girl and I think they're both the same animal, using other people to get their way and not really thinking about the consequences. Sort of like with Trump and the constant venom. It may temporarily feel good to constantly be the star of your own show, but it gets that person in trouble eventually.

To that end, I don't really care who the President has slept with. I think that as long as he didn't break the law (rape, drugging people, etc), then it's not really my business. If they put up two people as candidates and one was more closer to my moral ethics or whatever, way of thinking that translated into good policy, obviously I'm more inclined to vote for them. But I'm not a fool. I know people really can't be held to an ideal standard without at least some part of the illusion breaking apart. We get it wrong in the US when we focus too much on personality traits. Every single one of these human beings have massive baggage or have done something that will offend a good portion of the public. It's just a matter of it becoming public and offending the "wrong" people... and whether they can survive that without imploding, I guess.

There are many more who are quite happy to play risky games with romance and use their sexual prowess to get a foot in the door. Some people would do it just for literally attention. It's present in all aspects of life, from the lowly Starbucks employee on up. The more competitive people feel, the more this behavior will play out. Politics is as competitive as real sports, so I think that aspect of trying to "get one over" will never change. Whether it be sex or exchange of information with the expectation of political favors...

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i'm optimistic about a Kamala win, and at the end of the day, it's a positive vibe, and if enough americans feel the same, she will win. It's that simple

I'm feeling it's optimistic moreso given the media and politicians have gone in lockstep in making sure she is the dream nominee. Even I'm more accepting of it.

Trump can be reassured by this, but should be really concerned as well, that Kamala is still fairly opaque for most people and there's so much projection going on around her image...

It's to her advantage because she can possibly puppy eye her way past all his crap and secure a win that way. Trump's garbage is all out there in the open and there's no sanitizing his image. But that's the advantage he has... everyone pretty much knows exactly what he is. So there's no surprises. For Kamala, unless something pretty major comes out or she flubs hard during a debate or campaign event, nobody will be able to be figure it out what is what within that short period of a time. She can make all the promises she wants, but virtually anything she says is unvetted as to her ability to deliver on said promises. Most will be projecting whatever it is they think she could be as President in their vote, as there's no evidence how she'll be really, at least until the day she is sworn in... that may be good enough indeed for a lot of people as it's a sad state of affairs, US politics that is...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

And Trump slept with a raging hardcore porn star ....so what's your point? .

he made the better choice

[Maru]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

And Trump slept with a raging hardcore porn star ....so what's your point? .

I don't think Stormy Daniels had any political clout Well, at least until he ran for President, anyway... then suddenly she's a woman's advocate.

[Glenn.]

Electric boats and sharks…..

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Maru

I don't think Stormy Daniels had any political clout Well, at least until he ran for President, anyway... then suddenly she's a woman's advocate.

yeah .....it was clear what her agenda was , and I don't get why she's become a ' women's advocate ' just because she slept with Trump and did a kiss & tell ... pretty ridiculous really.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

he made the better choice

In what world is that better??? , the person who slept with him gets paid to make adult movies, she took pleasure in describing his bits in gory details on national TV...how low can it get !?? .

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Alf

Hey, I do the sarcasm round these here parts.

Tbh, Trump was barely ahead of Biden in the first debate.

Heck! In some areas he was still worse than Biden imo.

Anyone that can basically string a sentence together will wipe the floor with Trump in a debate I think.

However I do get that votes are pretty much on lock for a lot of people regardless of who wins the debates.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

God she’s good and the best part in all of this is how much it’ll burn him losing to a black woman

It would've been even better if he'd have lost to a Mexican woman.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Alf

I agree. It's not that relevant for me. But I know for an absolute fact that I'd have to be spending months, maybe years defending Trump on here from that news.

Only this morning I had to defend him from the "grab her by the pussy" on here. That was year's ago before he was President, in a private lads cock measuring chat.

There's a few differences.

1. I can't think of one lads chat where a guy has said "I like to grab her Pussy, and there's nothing she can do about it" because the guy would get decked in the face as soon as he says that ****, because it isn't banter to most people.

2. Are we really comparing Trump and Kamala being judged for what their family members did, to something that Trump actually said?

[arista]

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

There's a few differences.

1. I can't think of one lads chat where a guy has said "I like to grab her Pussy, and there's nothing she can do about it" because the guy would get decked in the face as soon as he says that ****, because it isn't banter to most people.

That's not quite what was said. But yeah, still gross:

Trump: "Yeah, that’s her, with the gold. I’ve got to use some Tic Tacs, just in case I start kissing her. You know I’m automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It’s like a magnet. I just kiss. I don’t even wait. And when you’re a star, they let you do it. You can do anything."

Unidentified man: "Whatever you want."

Trump: "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."

S: https://www.politifact.com/article/2...-remarks-2005/

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

yeah .....it was clear what her agenda was , and I don't get why she's become a ' women's advocate ' just because she slept with Trump and did a kiss & tell ... pretty ridiculous really.

Somewhat of a tangent, but the above quoted transcript is why I don't really take much stock in people like Stormy Daniels. Men and women have both done plenty mutually to get us to this point where we are socially in at least the past few decades, imo. We've gone backwards. It's actually celebrated now to be a self-aggrandizing POS. People don't even have to bother with privacy anymore in being that abhorrent. It's in public, it's in our politics and in how everyday people handle simple conflict and basic interactions now. It creates a basic paranoia that's very difficult to ignore and get past, especially for people who are already less socially inclined. It's creating a loneliness issue.

I understand some may not want Kamala to get into office because she may "set a bad example", but that horse left the barn long ago. Kamala didn't invent the habit of climbing the ladder using her body, but it would be a shame if she ends up being the intellectual shell that some suspect (I don't know) and our actual first female President ends up being "just that". Not quite the stellar figure we had hoped and dreamed of decades ago, but probably what America actually deserves, atm.

Trump's own words should be used against him since he literally affirmed how he himself has benefited from this ladder-climbing behavior... it's just in the reverse, in this case. So I don't think that an argument against Kamala about climbing ladders, etc, can really even work coming from Trump if he is literally on audio bragging about how he was able to get away with so much because of people's tendency to gravitate towards people in power. He's basically saying they were totally compliant, thus it's fine, but I don't hear the argument where it's supporting the problem from the other direction as well... and that's a result of the breakdown in humility in our culture and rising problems between men and women, imo. I'm not sure how that will ever heal. I'm far more concerned about that than I am about race relations, for example, because men and women do tend to mutually set the goalposts in society (otherwise, why bother the other sex constantly to "do moor!!"?) ...and if both are entering into disaffection with one another for whatever reason, then it becomes difficult to move away from any past hurts, societally... whatever the source (racial, etc). Sorry, Feminists/Men's right people... y'all kinda need each other to get your basic demands met for change, imo. There comes a point where the other side simply won't cooperate anymore and I think that's where we're at currently and part of why we experience so many issues...


Kamala becoming President symbolically won't do anything for the above except to check a checkbox on someone's checklist... but I would hope that it takes the temperature down at least enough that people start to focus on each other rather than worrying about what "those others" are doing to stab them in the back... there's just such a problem with even creating simpler trust. Consider increasingly more don't even communicate directly about important matters now. It's all filtered. We literally use stalking websites to "check out" people before real conversations start to even happen and they're usually snuffed out before they can begin. And who knows what actually governs our attention spans and perceptions through those means.... but it's certainly not human connection. Anyway, /tangent over.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Maru

That's not quite what was said. But yeah, still gross:



S: https://www.politifact.com/article/2...-remarks-2005/



Somewhat of a tangent, but the above quoted transcript is why I don't really take much stock in people like Stormy Daniels. Men and women have both done plenty mutually to get us to this point where we are socially in at least the past few decades, imo. We've gone backwards. It's actually celebrated now to be a self-aggrandizing POS. People don't even have to bother with privacy anymore in being that abhorrent. It's in public, it's in our politics and in how everyday people handle simple conflict and basic interactions now. It creates a basic paranoia that's very difficult to ignore and get past, especially for people who are already less socially inclined. It's creating a loneliness issue.

I understand some may not want Kamala to get into office because she may "set a bad example", but that horse left the barn long ago. Kamala didn't invent the habit of climbing the ladder using her body, but it would be a shame if she ends up being the intellectual shell that some suspect (I don't know) and our actual first female President ends up being "just that". Not quite the stellar figure we had hoped and dreamed of decades ago, but probably what America actually deserves, atm.

Trump's own words should be used against him since he literally affirmed how he himself has benefited from this ladder-climbing behavior... it's just in the reverse, in this case. So I don't think that an argument against Kamala about climbing ladders, etc, can really even work coming from Trump if he is literally on audio bragging about how he was able to get away with so much because of people's tendency to gravitate towards people in power. He's basically saying they were totally compliant, thus it's fine, but I don't hear the argument where it's supporting the problem from the other direction as well... and that's a result of the breakdown in humility in our culture and rising problems between men and women, imo. I'm not sure how that will ever heal. I'm far more concerned about that than I am about race relations, for example, because men and women do tend to mutually set the goalposts in society (otherwise, why bother the other sex constantly to "do moor!!"?) ...and if both are entering into disaffection with one another for whatever reason, then it becomes difficult to move away from any past hurts, societally... whatever the source (racial, etc). Sorry, Feminists/Men's right people... y'all kinda need each other to get your basic demands met for change, imo. There comes a point where the other side simply won't cooperate anymore and I think that's where we're at currently and part of why we experience so many issues...


Kamala becoming President symbolically won't do anything for the above except to check a checkbox on someone's checklist... but I would hope that it takes the temperature down at least enough that people start to focus on each other rather than worrying about what "those others" are doing to stab them in the back... there's just such a problem with even creating simpler trust. Consider increasingly more don't even communicate directly about important matters now. It's all filtered. We literally use stalking websites to "check out" people before real conversations start to even happen and they're usually snuffed out before they can begin. And who knows what actually governs our attention spans and perceptions through those means.... but it's certainly not human connection. Anyway, /tangent over.

It's still pretty gross like you've said.

I wouldn't exactly call it a chat that the likes of Ash, Winston, or Marlon would've had during BB15 for example, like Alf is trying to claim.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Rep. Brian Mast
@RepBrianMast

I fought and bled for the American Flag. My friends lost their lives in battle for
the American Flag. And when they came home, the American Flag was draped
over their caskets.

Yet, the people Kamala Harris is courting burn the American Flag. Shame