[arista]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

@James please delete all parmy's posts

Why?

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

Aggression from either side is bad.

Attacking people unprovoked and gathering with weapons is never acceptable.

I don't know how anyone can support this behaviour.

There's defending your community,and then there's going out provoking and looking for trouble.

I honestly feel sorry for any innocent person caught up in this angry mob of dumb angry violence, black ,white ,Asian etc . It sounds like some people are minding their own business...and are still getting targeted .

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by arista

Why?

Originally Posted by parmnion

I will just delete all my posts and you will all live in denial on the matter...

My thread was about a peaceful protest that the police hijacked, and 2 tier policing is an intregal part of the discussion.. no matter what old scrotum face on lbc says.

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[bots]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Please dont edit title again, my initial post was about two tier policing until you merged the threads..


Thank you.

it seems to me that the police are being bombarded by missiles from all sides, so it's hardly 2 tier

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I don't know how anyone can support this behaviour.

There's defending your community,and then there's going out provoking and looking for trouble.

I honestly feel sorry for any innocent person caught up in this angry mob of dumb angry violence, black ,white ,Asian etc . It sounds like some people are minding their own business...and are still getting targeted .

Yes people who are minding their own business are also targeted.

[joeysteele]

Well the Muslim communities did not start this.

It was first a lie that a Muslim immigrant had killed those children.
Blatant lie and misinformation.

These mindless morons then took to Southport's streets.
Causing damage and violence even just as the relatives were grieving for their losses.

They've now made it a nationwide rioting happening, causing damage and violence even against the police.
Trying to get into Mosques or places housing asylum seekers to burn them down immaterial of any people in them.
Despite being told that the original information was wrong and lies.

So the Muslim communities just have to take that do they???
Never even think of any retaliation.

I certainly don't blame both sides, that to me is trying to justify the original rioting probably.

I'm pleased it's being looked at that there possibly could be a terrorism crime scenario in this now.
Not a chance I'll express any sympathy for the morons who have started all this off hijacking murders of 3 children as a justification.
That's is sick and depraved.

Today should have been the relief in Southport for all the children hospitalised now going home.
Yet what there is, is these moronic rioters still taking to the streets in towns and cities, terrorising whatever community is in the area they're rioting.
Still committing violence against the Police.

Would I even want to have any support, understanding or defence of these mindless rioters.
NOT A CHANCE, I'd feel nothing but shame at myself if I did.
They're the real danger NOW on the streets of the UK.
Vile and despicable.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

So the Muslim communities just have to take that do they???
Never even think of any retaliation.

How is targeting uninvolved people retaliation?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

How is targeting uninvolved people retaliation?

Try to deflect all you may Oliver.

This week has turned into nothing but violence and hate by an attempt of frightening mob rule
By those WHO started it all.
These rioters.
You'll get no detracting or excusing of any of that from me.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Try to deflect all you may Oliver.

This week has turned into nothing but violence and hate by an attempt of frightening mob rule
By those WHO started it all.
These rioters.
You'll get no detracting or excusing of any of that from me.

I'm not deflecting, both sides should be condemned when they commit violence.

Everyone is responsible for their own actions, including those carrying out "retaliatory" attacks, who should be condemned just as hard.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I'm not deflecting, both sides should be condemned when they commit violence.

Everyone is responsible for their own actions, including those carrying out "retaliatory" attacks, who should be condemned just as hard.

I couldn't agree more.
People who are just minding their own business are also being travelled and that's not fair.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

i want to know what the rioters and those that support them expect to achieve. The immigrants are here and they can't do anything about that now. What does attacking them and or the police and or property achieve?

It's not going to change the mind of the government. What may change the governments mind is peaceful protest against the government, If the numbers are big enough, maybe they will listen. Violence and destruction wont achieve anything

I think there's probably a few different explanations:

- the violence is an end in itself as an outlet for suppressed rage. Bit like football hooliganism
- it'll create an atmosphere of intimidation and fear for migrant communities and other races. Make them more reluctant to walk the streets, open businesses, stay in the country etc.
- some of the very hardcore Nazis genuinely want a race war and think this will advance that

They're not really interested in influencing government policy. Many of these rioters would be more than happy to see all our institutions crumble

[MTVN]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cw5yyynpwnzt

Nice video at 15:14 showing members of the Muslim community apologising to customers and management of the pub that was attacked and making clear that those actions don't represent them. They have even offered to pay for damage caused

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by MTVN

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cw5yyynpwnzt

Nice video at 15:14 showing members of the Muslim community apologising to customers and management of the pub that was attacked and making clear that those actions don't represent them. They have even offered to pay for damage caused

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Well the Muslim communities did not start this.

It was first a lie that a Muslim immigrant had killed those children.
Blatant lie and misinformation.

These mindless morons then took to Southport's streets.
Causing damage and violence even just as the relatives were grieving for their losses.

They've now made it a nationwide rioting happening, causing damage and violence even against the police.
Trying to get into Mosques or places housing asylum seekers to burn them down immaterial of any people in them.
Despite being told that the original information was wrong and lies.

So the Muslim communities just have to take that do they???
Never even think of any retaliation.

I certainly don't blame both sides, that to me is trying to justify the original rioting probably.

I'm pleased it's being looked at that there possibly could be a terrorism crime scenario in this now.
Not a chance I'll express any sympathy for the morons who have started all this off hijacking murders of 3 children as a justification.
That's is sick and depraved.

Today should have been the relief in Southport for all the children hospitalised now going home.
Yet what there is, is these moronic rioters still taking to the streets in towns and cities, terrorising whatever community is in the area they're rioting.
Still committing violence against the Police.

Would I even want to have any support, understanding or defence of these mindless rioters.
NOT A CHANCE, I'd feel nothing but shame at myself if I did.
They're the real danger NOW on the streets of the UK.
Vile and despicable.

Good post, Joey.

I hope now that the election is finished, we can get back to normal, my brother.

[The Slim Reaper]

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/cw5yyynpwnzt

Nice video at 15:14 showing members of the Muslim community apologising to customers and management of the pub that was attacked and making clear that those actions don't represent them. They have even offered to pay for damage caused

Great example of the Muslim community and one I am more familar with than yobs telling people to stay out

[Beso]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

it seems to me that the police are being bombarded by missiles from all sides, so it's hardly 2 tier

It's a shame they only face one way though.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Great example of the Muslim community and one I am more familar with than yobs telling people to stay out

I 2nd that.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by parmnion

A youtuber arrested for standing on a pavement after being told hes ok there..today, earlier on before any trouble..along with about 8 others I noticed before his arrest.


https://www.youtube.com/live/-v7aD82...x5u5Gn9JKMvlPN

2 tier policing.

[Beso]

1min 30 seconds into this new video, a masked antifa member throws a bottle at people, right in front of a policeman.The copper grabs him and is pinned by 2 other coppers. They let him go, didnt even remove his mask for the cameras.


2 tier policing.

https://youtu.be/iT-nN-x5jIs?si=cRvRBXZ1-mOspZJv
@parmysmythbusters.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by parmnion

1min 30 seconds into this new video, a masked antifa member throws a bottle at people, right in front of a policeman.The copper grabs him and is pinned by 2 other coppers. They let him go, didnt even remove his mask for the cameras.


2 tier policing.

https://youtu.be/iT-nN-x5jIs?si=cRvRBXZ1-mOspZJv
@parmysmythbusters.

I'm not sitting through a 1 hour video Parm, I fast forwarded to the guy in a pink shirt getting knocked down by a police shield.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I'm not sitting through a 1 hour video Parm, I fast forwarded to the guy in a pink shirt getting knocked down by a police shield.

You only have to watch the first 2 minutes 30 seconds. The trouble at the bus stop.

You will see an antifa member throw a missile and a copper grabbing him, its easy to spot. Watch as he is surrounded by cops, who just let him go.

Then, keep your eye out for another masked antifa member whisper to a grey haired older policeman just at the left hand entrance to the bus stop, the policeman then scurries off, before coming back moments later to hand something to the antifa member in the mask...I wonder what that was about, definitive 2 tier policing though.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by parmnion

You only have to watch the first 2 minutes 30 seconds. The trouble at the bus stop.

You will see an antifa member throw a missile and a copper grabbing him, its easy to spot. Watch as he is surrounded by cops, who just let him go.

Then, keep your eye out for another masked antifa member whisper to a grey haired older policeman just at the left hand entrance to the bus stop, the policeman then scurries off, before coming back moments later to hand something to the antifa member in the mask...I wonder what that was about, definitive 2 tier policing though.

Well this will only bite the police in their bum ,if they're treating people differently .

Anyone kicking off causing disruption & violence should all be treated the same.

[GoldHeart]

Ok tried watching the first 3 mins of the video @parmnion , I noticed a cop handing something to his hand ..I don't know what this is either . I heard the chanting,and glass breaking.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Ok tried watching the first 3 mins of the video @parmnion , I noticed a cop handing something to his hand ..I don't know what this is either .

It's two tier policing. At best.