[MTVN]

Thing is Labour were talking a couple of weeks ago about how they were going to have to release loads of prisoners early because there was no prison space, so not quite sure how they're going to manage all these people newly convicted on pretty severe sentences

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Thing is Labour were talking a couple of weeks ago about how they were going to have to release loads of prisoners early because there was no prison space, so not quite sure how they're going to manage all these people newly convicted on pretty severe sentences

They're letting out dangerous criminals early for this. Unbelievable

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

They're letting out dangerous criminals early for this. Unbelievable

Starmer said " prisons are full" ,so I guess more free criminals will roam the streets.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

They're letting out dangerous criminals early for this. Unbelievable

No they are not

That's blatant nonsense.
Utter rubbish.

Where's your proof we are doing that????

The last government was going to do just what Labour plans.
I didn't see you moaning at them.
However they were a right wing government weren't they.

Where's the comparison of people out of prison because of theft crimes compared to these violent destructive rioters.
You'd rather them left on the streets would you ???

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Zizu

There have been thousands of thugs , rioters, looters and weapon wielding including that young Asian guy with the huge sword in the town centre .. do they all get off Scott free ?


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The guy with the weapon has been apprehended and charged...

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

The guy with the weapon has been apprehended and charged...

Really !!

Fantastic
Keep us posted


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[arista]

149 are charged, so far.

[bots]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Thing is Labour were talking a couple of weeks ago about how they were going to have to release loads of prisoners early because there was no prison space, so not quite sure how they're going to manage all these people newly convicted on pretty severe sentences

they can put them up in the hotels the immigrants used to be in

[Alf]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

No they are not

That's blatant nonsense.
Utter rubbish.

Where's your proof we are doing that????

The last government was going to do just what Labour plans.
I didn't see you moaning at them.
However they were a right wing government weren't they.

Where's the comparison of people out of prison because of theft crimes compared to these violent destructive rioters.
You'd rather them left on the streets would you ???

Who are Carlos Neto and Lawson Natty? What did they do. And what story are they in the news for this week?

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

they can put them up in the hotels the immigrants used to be in

That's not a punishment

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Cherie

A couple who became involved in riots in Hartlepool after going to an afternoon bingo session have each been jailed for two years and two months.

Steven Mailen, 54, of Arch Court, Hartlepool, was described as “one of the main instigators” of a large scale disturbance on Murray Street.

His partner Ryan Sheers, 29, of Powlett Road, Hartlepool, was bitten on the hip by a police dog during the incident.

The pair, neither of whom has any previous convictions, pleaded guilty to violent disorder after around 200 people gathered in the town on July 31.

Teesside Crown Court heard Mailen and Sheers had been at bingo together in the afternoon and continued drinking at home.

They told police they came upon the disturbance on the way to the shop to buy more alcohol and ended up being “at the very forefront of the mob”.
Rachel Masters, prosecuting, said officers at the scene described Mailen as “one of the main instigators of a large scale disturbance”


I mean

Nothing the left hates more than a far-right from the minority identity.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Hopefully the football will ironically calm down things .

The police will be very stretched.

On another note, you might like this goldheart.

These free palestine marchers who come out at night and smash up Barclays banks and any other establishment windows theh feel have association to israel, why are they not called far right thugs?

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by The Slim Reaper

I think the city has been pretty lucky so far. Yardley had a few skirmishes, but that's about it. I think the high numbers of opps would make it a tricky place for far right riots to kick off in the one sided manner that cowards always prefer.

That's good to know, thanks for the information.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

They're letting out dangerous criminals early for this. Unbelievable

Let's hope that they're letting out petty criminals.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by Alf

Who are Carlos Neto and Lawson Natty? What did they do. And what story are they in the news for this week?

Well it's all gone quiet over there.

Because tribalist Labour supporters do not care

Well it's all gone quiet, all gone quiet, all gone quiet over there.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Let's hope that they're letting out petty criminals.

They haven't let anyone out yet.
It's nonsense.

It will be decided who is released early by the Justice secretary,bthe Justice department and the parole organisation.

There's at least a third of people in prison who've never done anything violent whatsoever.
They shouldn't be in prison at all iny view.

That alone would open up loads of spaces.

However, there is also as the last lot which were in government were looking at too.
Where I understand those who would be due for parole likely sometime next year and getting them out this year instead in September/ October time

It will NOT however just be the government's Minister making the decision it will be made involving all across and involved in the Justice system.

This is just more scaremongering in the main.

There are names been deemed for release which are rather disturbing.
There will be strict rules applied to them and supervision we are told.
However Labour members are not happy and will be pressing for a re-think.
IF those names are in effect released then I'll criticise.
Because behind the scenes there's a lot of protesting about it.

It's unfortunate the original sentence wasn't longer in those cases.
However it's not desirable or acceptable.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

They haven't let anyone out yet.
It's nonsense.

It will be decided who is released early by the Justice secretary,bthe Justice department and the parole organisation.

There's at least a third of people in prison who've never done anything violent whatsoever.
They shouldn't be in prison at all iny view.

That alone would open up loads of spaces.

However, there is also as the last lot which were in government were looking at too.
Where I understand those who would be due for parole likely sometime next year and getting them out this year instead in September/ October time

It will NOT however just be the government's Minister making the decision it will be made involving all across and involved in the Justice system.

This is just more scaremongering in the main.

I do agree with what you're saying in general.

It's just if Labour does have to end up releasing Prisoners, that it isn't violent criminals.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

They haven't let anyone out yet.
It's nonsense.

It will be decided who is released early by the Justice secretary,bthe Justice department and the parole organisation.

There's at least a third of people in prison who've never done anything violent whatsoever.
They shouldn't be in prison at all iny view.

That alone would open up loads of spaces.

However, there is also as the last lot which were in government were looking at too.
Where I understand those who would be due for parole likely sometime next year and getting them out this year instead in September/ October time

It will NOT however just be the government's Minister making the decision it will be made involving all across and involved in the Justice system.

This is just more scaremongering in the main.

Your party leaders are acting like tyrants. They're turning this country into a state like North Korea.

They're sending threats out to the general public, that they'll put people in prison for sharing a social media post.

Shame on you for supportng this against your own people.

We won't forget

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I do agree with what you're saying in general.

It's just if Labour does have to end up releasing Prisoners, that it isn't violent criminals.

I missed off part of my post.

There are a few which due to the original smaller sentencing do come under the 40% benchmark of time served.
However there's still battling going on about that.
So it hasn't happened YET at all.
Plus the families of the victims are rightly furious.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Alf

Your party leaders are acting like tyrants. They're turning this country into a state like North Korea.

They're sending threats out to the general public, that they'll put people in prison for sharing a social media post.

Shame on you for supportng this against your own people.

We won't forget

Oh stop talking nonsense for goodness sake.
North Korea indeed
What delusion.

The Cons were going to do exactly the same thing.
They'd have had to.
Since they've battered the prison system and places into the ground over 14 YEARS.
Which you know perfectly well.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Oh stop talking nonsense for goodness sake.
North Korea indeed
What delusion.

The Cons were going to do exactly the same thing.
Thed have had to.
Since they've battered the prison system and places into the ground.
Which you know perfectly well.

I couldn't give a shiny sh!te about the cons. They're exactly the same as Labour. All globalists that serve themselves, and their Globalist, elite master and not we the people.

The only Leader in the World right now who is standing up for We the people, is Donald Trump. And that's why he's been the biggest threat to the deep state from the minute he came down the escalator in 2015. That's why they tried to imprison him, that's why they tried to assassinate him.

He's not gonna put anyone in prison for having opinion on something.

[Alf]

MOFA


Make Orwell fiction again

[GoldHeart]

@joeysteele you have a point about not everyone behind bars being guilty, I guess we'll have to see how Labour deals with the ' over capacity ' of prisons.

@Mystic Mock I hope they release more petty criminals as well .And keep the more dangerous ones locked up .

I guess we should wait .....and try not to worry ourselves too much on the matter.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

@joeysteele you have a point about not everyone behind bars being guilty, I guess we'll have to see how Labour deals with the ' over capacity ' of prisons.

@Mystic Mock I hope they release more petty criminals as well .And keep the more dangerous ones locked up .

I guess we should wait .....and try not to worry ourselves too much on the matter.

That's my hope too.
I'm personally not happy with the 40% of time served bar as to release.
Although it's not released without other restrictions applied.

That will mean however a lenient sentence for a violent crime.
Then also a more longer sentence for a similar violent crime.

Would mean one could get out sooner depending on which Court and Judge decreed the sentencing.
That I'm definitely not happy about.

[Maru]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Thing is Labour were talking a couple of weeks ago about how they were going to have to release loads of prisoners early because there was no prison space, so not quite sure how they're going to manage all these people newly convicted on pretty severe sentences

That's like when govt refuses to build new power plants "because pollution", so they tell everyone they have to drive EVs soon to save the planet. Only to find out, there's not enough power to support the amount of new EVs being driven.... because govt.