[Beso]

I feel sorry for the Kaiser chiefs. They must have lost 1000s in royalties.

[Beso]

All the pms words were all hot air, they wont even serve half their sentences, hes a bloody joke.


He comes across as someone who would jump a mile if anyone said boo to him.

And no, he hasnt visited the families of the 3 girls yet, because hes not welcome. Hes to busy playing cos play politics with his umpteenth cobra meeting, so inept he cant get it right the first time.

Get him out before it's to late.

[arista]

Judge now giving the sentence
to 2 Criminal Rioters in Leeds.


BBC and SkyNews

2 Asians

Sammer Ali, 21
Adnan Ghafoor, 31

Adnan Ghafoor is in breach of the Bail he was on


Ali gets 20months
Ghafoor gets 18months


Off to Jail the 2 go.

[Cherie]

A40-year-old grandfather is facing a custodial sentence after pleading guilty to assault by beating of a police officer who he “barrelled” into at a protest in Southampton.

Ryan Wheatley, of Malvern Close, Fair Oak, Hampshire, admitted running into Sergeant Rob Perry at the demonstration on Wednesday.

I don't get this but the guy who assaulted female police officers in the airport is where exactly??

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by parmnion

All the pms words were all hot air, they wont even serve half their sentences, hes a bloody joke.


He comes across as someone who would jump a mile if anyone said boo to him.

And no, he hasnt visited the families of the 3 girls yet, because hes not welcome. Hes to busy playing cos play politics with his umpteenth cobra meeting, so inept he cant get it right the first time.

Get him out before it's to late.

I dont think he has done that badly, he probably should have visited the families but then I am not sure that has been done before with terror attacks has it?

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Cherie

The bingo goers are hard ass

Well it is Hartlepool.
😂😂😂😂😂😂

[Ammi]

…(..I think…) …for me, it’s a situation in sentencing that isn’t going to be comparable to any ‘one time incident’…in that it’s still considered an escalation that has the country in ‘high alert’….and has created and is creating a ‘crisis situation’ that is involving government COBRA meetings, which more isolated incidents don’t have the same levels of public safety considerations…in fact, with violent incidents etc…its often said by the police…’no further threat to public is perceived’ or whatever the wording is…that doesn’t apply to the rioting which is still a high alert situation so sentencing does appear to be factoring and reflecting that also….

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Well it is Hartlepool.
😂😂😂😂😂😂

…I think that was where the poor monkey was hung back in the day, if I recall…

[arista]

Originally Posted by Cherie

A40-year-old grandfather is facing a custodial sentence after pleading guilty to assault by beating of a police officer who he “barrelled” into at a protest in Southampton.

Ryan Wheatley, of Malvern Close, Fair Oak, Hampshire, admitted running into Sergeant Rob Perry at the demonstration on Wednesday.

I don't get this but the guy who assaulted female police officers in the airport is where exactly??

Two-tier-Keir

[smudgie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I think that was where the poor monkey was hung back in the day, if I recall…

Aye. My youngest sister was a monkey hanger.
She was born in Hartlepool.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…I think that was where the poor monkey was hung back in the day, if I recall…

Originally Posted by smudgie

Aye. My youngest sister was a monkey hanger.
She was born in Hartlepool.

sorry what

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Aye. My youngest sister was a monkey hanger.
She was born in Hartlepool.

…it’s one of those random things that sticks because my dad…(…being Irish so not really having huge English history knowledge etc…)…would say, that’s where they hung the poor monkey…any time Hartlepool was mentioned…and I did as a child have grim upsetting visions of a poor hanging monkey in my head…

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Cherie

sorry what

…word on the street is that it was fake news, though…but it’s one of those ‘myths’ that’s stuck in my head…

https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryU...lepool-Monkey/

[Quantum Boy]

"One stormy day during the Napoleonic Wars, a French ship was wrecked off the coast of an old fishing village clinging to the north-east coast of England.

The only survivor was the ship's mascot, a monkey that was washed ashore.

The people of Hartlepool had never seen a monkey before - nor, for that matter, had they ever set eyes on a Frenchman.

Mistaking its chattering for the language of the enemy, they convicted the monkey of being a French spy and hanged the animal on the beach.

Or so the story goes."


Very apt for this thread really, I have a feeling this is a cautionary tale about the mindlessness of "mob mentality".

[Ammi]

…it’s amazing the deviations and twists and turns and corners etc that thread topics take…it’s a TiBB blessing and a TiBB curse, I reckon…

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…it’s amazing the deviations and twists and turns and corners etc that thread topics take…it’s a TiBB blessing and a TiBB curse, I reckon…

TiBB is actually my 4th "forum membership stint" of my internet life (going back to when I was 13 in 1998 ) -- I am and always have been an advocate for threads being allowed to meander on and off topic. How else can we capture such serendipity .

[joeysteele]

Good to see a 20 months prison sentence given to a 28 year old guy who posted incitement to violence post on Facebook.

Any racial hatred posts should be looked into and supporting of these criminal rioters

Words have consequences and I'm really pleased to see words and wording now being looked at as to what
is posted on social media sites open to the public.
More needs to be watched as to that on ALL sites.

[Zizu]

As things stand they only serve 40% of the sentence don’t they.. less the time they are held


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[arista]

Evil Racist

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

As things stand they only serve 40% of the sentence don’t they.. less the time they are held


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The judge decreed 50% in this case.

The 40% will only be used to help open up room in prisons likely over a short period.

Once that's done the 40% will no longer probably apply.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

The judge decreed 50% in this case.

The 40% will only be used to help open up room in prisons likely over a short period.

Once that's done the 40% will no longer probably apply.

On that note .

Labour were complaining that the jails were at dangerous levels and they may have to let loads out early ..


Today after nearly 500 arrests their spokesman said there was plenty of room for all these people !!


No wonder the don’t trust governments ( all parties). !!


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[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Zizu

On that note .

Labour were complaining that the jails were at dangerous levels and they may have to let loads out early ..


Today after nearly 500 arrests their spokesman said there was plenty of room for all these people !!


No wonder the don’t trust governments ( all parties). !!


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There are prison places but the prisons are heading to be full.
It was the Cons who began the policy of letting prisoners out a bit earlier..
They were going to do the same thing almost exactly.

It's not a uniquely Labour thing.

IF as it was said, the prison population stayed the same, then by next year the prisons would be full.

No one ever said they were FULL now.
It was the Con govt who admitted they were now at dangerously high levels.
Labour agreed they were.

It's not as dramatic as you're making it out and only moaning at Labour as usual while skirting past the fact over 14 years, under Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss AND Sunak.
The prison population has reached dangerously high levels and expected to be full within around a year +.

The early release programme to begin in September hopefully.
Will reduce the prison population substantially.
So these being sentenced now easily accommodated thankfully.

Everywhere across the justice system it's known more places are needed in years to come.
It's not a question of trust, it's simple facts.

[Nicky91]

the more attention you give these riots, the longer they will continue to go on


that is what these protester trolls want, attention and likes



don't give them attention, and they'll go away being bored not getting what they want

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

There are prison places but the prisons are heading to be full.
It was the Cons who began the policy of letting prisoners out a bit earlier..
They were going to do the same thing almost exactly.

It's not a uniquely Labour thing.

IF as it was said, the prison population stayed the same, then by next year the prisons would be full.

No one ever said they were FULL now.
It was the Con govt who admitted they were now at dangerously high levels.
Labour agreed they were.

It's not as dramatic as you're making it out and only moaning at Labour as usual while skirting past the fact over 14 years, under Cameron, May, Johnson, Truss AND Sunak.
The prison population has reached dangerously high levels and expected to be full within around a year +.

The early release programme to begin in September hopefully.
Will reduce the prison population substantially.
So these being sentenced now easily accommodated thankfully.

Everywhere across the justice system it's known more places are needed in years to come.
It's not a question of trust, it's simple facts.

Well a couple of weeks ago they were full to dangerous levels … nothing had changed yet today they have plenty of space for the hungry being are arrested !


So which is it .. both labour statements


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[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by Cherie

A40-year-old grandfather is facing a custodial sentence after pleading guilty to assault by beating of a police officer who he “barrelled” into at a protest in Southampton.

Ryan Wheatley, of Malvern Close, Fair Oak, Hampshire, admitted running into Sergeant Rob Perry at the demonstration on Wednesday.

I don't get this but the guy who assaulted female police officers in the airport is where exactly??

That’s what I want to know….i doubt they are in custody though.