[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Redway

All talk of him being a terrorist has suddenly been silenced now-that we know he’s white.

He's Romanian

And if you don't think stabbing an innocent defenceless child repeatedly, isn't some form of 'terror attack'?...then really don't know what to tell you. He targeted the child , can't get anymore sick & effed up than that. He clearly wanted to do SERIOUS harm/kill .

I just hope the poor child recovers, god knows how she might never be the same again after something so horrifying. The mother must be really going through it psychologically ...after witnessing something so traumatic happening to her child. She must have felt helpless.

If I was a mother ,and some unhinged Psycho ever tried attacking my child, I'd like to think I'd shield my child .And try and fight / defend somehow...even if it meant getting brutally stabbed myself. A knife man out to
assault someone or people in general, CANNOT be reasoned with. And they should throw away the key!.

The security guard Abdullah was a brave hero to step in. And he should get the praise he deserves.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

He's Romanian

And if you don't think stabbing an innocent defenceless child repeatedly, isn't some form of 'terror attack'?...then really don't know what to tell you. He targeted the child , can't get anymore sick & effed up than that. He clearly wanted to do SERIOUS harm/kill .

I just hope the poor child recovers, god knows how she might never be the same again after something so horrifying. The mother must be really going through it psychologically ...after witnessing something so traumatic happening to her child. She must have felt helpless.

If I was a mother ,and some unhinged Psycho ever tried attacking my child, I'd like to think I'd shield my child .And try and fight / defend somehow...even if it meant getting brutally stabbed myself. A knife man out to
assault someone or people in general, CANNOT be reasoned with. And they should throw away the key!.

The security guard Abdullah was a brave hero to step in. And he should get the praise he deserves.

Listen, stop your nonsense. You know what I’m talking about.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by Redway

Listen, stop your nonsense. You know what I’m talking about.

Sadly we don’t


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[Ammi]

…it really is terrifying, that a child again has been the target and there is no doubt that he intended to kill…and I do agree that it may have been ‘a random attack’…but it’s yet another attack on a child that is causing terror so still a terror attack also…

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Redway

Listen, stop your nonsense. You know what I’m talking about.

Of course he is a terrorist, but I am sure the mental health card will be played

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Of course he is a terrorist, but I am sure the mental health card will be played

I can’t understand why people just think the mental health card is being used by the government to cover up terrorism

Metal health can see someone jump in front a train like the cricketer or attack random people

There is going to be an enquiry into the man that killed three random people last year because of failings in the mental health system

I’ve said it for years you don’t know who is standing next to you when out in public

[MTVN]

To me there is a distinction between terrorist acts and acts committed by someone who is mentally ill. I don't think it devalues a crime to say that it is not terrorism. If anything non-terror attacks can be much worse, more alarming and much more incomprehensible.

The reason that terrorism is quite strictly defined is because it affects the whole judicial process and different powers are involved when dealing with a terror attack. We don't need to categorise every act of evil as an act of terror imo.

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by MTVN

To me there is a distinction between terrorist acts and acts committed by someone who is mentally ill. I don't think it devalues a crime to say that it is not terrorism. If anything non-terror attacks can be much worse, more alarming and much more incomprehensible.

The reason that terrorism is quite strictly defined is because it affects the whole judicial process and different powers are involved when dealing with a terror attack. We don't need to categorise every act of evil as an act of terror imo.

A steady hand on the wheel of life as always Matt

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redway

All talk of him being a terrorist has suddenly been silenced now-that we know he’s white.

Well it certainly shouldn't be imo.

He is a Terrorist, regardless of his skin colour.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by MTVN

To me there is a distinction between terrorist acts and acts committed by someone who is mentally ill. I don't think it devalues a crime to say that it is not terrorism. If anything non-terror attacks can be much worse, more alarming and much more incomprehensible.

The reason that terrorism is quite strictly defined is because it affects the whole judicial process and different powers are involved when dealing with a terror attack. We don't need to categorise every act of evil as an act of terror imo.

Looking at the definition of Terrorism, the law enforcement would have to find evidence of this guy having a Political message that he was trying to convey to have it classed under Terrorism.

In my view though, attacking someone in front of the public to scare them (and possibly attack them as well) should also be classed under Terrorism, but I do see where you're coming from MTVN.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Looking at the definition of Terrorism, the law enforcement would have to find evidence of this guy having a Political message that he was trying to convey to have it classed under Terrorism.

In my view though, attacking someone in front of the public to scare them (and possibly attack them as well) should also be classed under Terrorism, but I do see where you're coming from MTVN.

Yes I agree. It should be classed as that.

[Quantum Boy]

Where's the British Lad Lad Lad's uproar over this one? It seems muted? Even though it is, still, a non-British person who has committed this horrific act. I wonder what the difference between this immigrant and the ones they're so upset about is? I wonder what it is? I can't put my finger on any fundamental difference between them. Rly weird. One to ponder.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

Where's the British Lad Lad Lad's uproar over this one? It seems muted? Even though it is, still, a non-British person who has committed this horrific act. I wonder what the difference between this immigrant and the ones they're so upset about is? I wonder what it is? I can't put my finger on any fundamental difference between them. Rly weird. One to ponder.

I don't think people are going to riot every time there's a stabbing or attack.... otherwise it would be all day every day utter chaos in the Streets ....which would be impossible to live with , there is still uproar & upset that these types of sickening crimes are more frequent now.

If people protested and rioted every time there was a stabbing, there wouldn't be rest or peace . Plus not to
mention the idiots going out of their way to cause trouble in these riots , they now know it carries
punishment and a heavy criminal record .

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I don't think people are going to riot every time there's a stabbing or attack.... otherwise it would be all day every day utter chaos in the Streets ....which would be impossible to live with , there is still uproar & upset that these types of sickening crimes are more frequent now.

If people protested and rioted every time there was a stabbing, there wouldn't be rest or peace . Plus not to
mention the idiots going out of their way to cause trouble in these riots , they now know it carries
punishment and a heavy criminal record .

I'm sure that's it.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

I'm sure that's it.

Erm were people not getting in trouble with the police over tweets/ social media posts ,as well as disruptive riot behaviour? . You don't think that will make them think twice before going on a rampage again?. Obviously we can't speak for all of them...but still .


You're not making sense on your immigration argument, regardless of skin tone... surely they'd still be xenophobia kicking about then ?.

You're saying the ' typical British far right yob' is only in a tizzy of rage when the criminal is black or middle eastern etc ?,is that really the road we're going down today?? . When in reality those said people who froth at the mouth ... would still be in a tizzy of anger at e.g white looking eastern European?.

It feels more like certain people wish this criminal was white British,so they could have more weight to their theory / your theory . But in reality....the criminal would still be seen as ' a immigrant/foreigner' regardless of how light or dark his skin is ?.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

I'm sure that's it.

If you think I'm going 9 months prison for airing my views on this piece of ****, you can think again.

[bots]

The 11 year old girl was an australian tourist, she has now been discharged from hospital

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The 11 year old girl was an Australian tourist, she has now been discharged from hospital

At least she is
out of the hospital now.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by arista

At least she is
out of the hospital now.

I wish her a speedy recovery, like I said...how do you get over something so horrible.

[Ammi]

Girl, 11, stabbed in Leicester Square attack is Australian, government confirms…

The 11-year-old girl who was stabbed eight times in Leicester Square this week is an Australian national, the Department of Foreign Affairs and Tradeconfirmed late Wednesday night.

The girl was visiting London with her mother at the time of the attack. She was hospitalised and required plastic surgery for wounds to her face, shoulder, wrist and neck, a court was told on Tuesday.

A DFAT spokesperson said consular assistance was being provided to two Australians in London. No other details were provided.

Police were called to reports of the stabbing in the central London square just after 11.30am on Monday 12 August. Ioan Pintaru, 32, appeared at Westminster magistrates court on Tuesday 13 August, charged with attempted murder and possession of a bladed article in a public place, which the court heard was a steak knife.

The court heard Pintaru was a Romanian citizen of no fixed address. The charges were read to him via an interpreter during the 10-minute hearing.

David Burns, prosecuting, said a woman and her 11-year-old daughter were in Leicester Square as tourists when the defendant “approached the 11-year-old girl, placed her into a headlock … then stabbed her eight times to the body”.

He added: “She sustained wounds to the face, shoulder, wrist and neck area. Fortunately, members of the public intervened, which prevented any further injury to the child.”

He added that the defendant had been detained and searched and a knife had been found on his person.

The girl was taken to hospital where she remains and is undergoing treatment. “I understand that she required plastic surgery for the injuries she sustained,” Burns said.

Officers were called and “found the defendant being held by the members of the public”, the prosecutor added.

Pintaru was remanded in custody and will appear at the Old Bailey on 10 September.

A security guard who works at TWG Tea shop in Leicester Square and gave his name as Abdullah, 29, said had “jumped on” and taken a knife from the attacker.

The security guard, named Abdullah, told the ABC he was working inside the store where the girl was visiting and “heard a scream” about 11.30am.

“I started running towards the guy. I jumped on the guy and held his hand, which was carrying the knife,” Abdullah said.

“I tackled him down on the floor and then kicked the knife away from him. And there were a couple of guys who came for help and they grabbed him as well.”

Abdullah said that he held the man down for around four minutes, alongside other witnesses, until police arrived and arrested him.

“I’ve never seen anything like it before, it was horrible,” he said, but admitted he didn’t feel scared.

“I would say that I’m a brave person. We Pakistanis are brave by heart as. So I wasn’t scared.”

Abdullah received a round of applause and was recognised for his bravery at Pakistan’s London High Commission independence day celebrations on Wednesday.

The Commission wrote on Facebook that “special tribute was also paid to the Pakistani brave young man, Abdullah, who heroically tackled an attacker at Leicester Square in London and saved lives of a mother and a child from stabbing attack.”

Former UK Labour MP Khalid Mahmood was in attendance and also honoured Abdullah as “our hero” in a post to X.

[Beso]

Its brilliant that this brave mans brave actions have been recognised and commended, if only stamers had shown the window cleaner of southport the same credit in his speech to the nation, he didnt even mention him.