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27-08-2024, 06:59 AM | #526 | |||
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But then it is America we're talking about.
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27-08-2024, 09:13 AM | #527 | |||
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The chase for perfect politics has driven away all possibility for compromises and creative solutions because the ruling parties are penalized for even a basic perceived lack of perfection and thus it is assumed they lack good intuition. Subsequently, I strongly distrust any politician that suggests idealism is enough to craft good policy out of thin air. I am on mobile so can't flesh out this point too much, but in short, we are dealing with the business of unicorn wrangling instead of searching for and crafting unique talent that can actually enact good policy. When there is nothing to show for it, this leads to ridiculous overpromising by respective parties and thus people vote not knowing any better what they are being sold because they are given too many contradictory choices. Increasingly neither party is allowed room to compromise on lack of perfection, so we stay on the same trajectory despite shifts in representation. In striving for "perfect", we end up with either gridlock or politicians not caring because they are forced to pass 700-900 page omnibus bills, just to enact a will, which don't even address their main problem. And America goes back and forth between each party with little result despite the fact our thirst for an idealistic representation for America in the world has led us down this path. Thank God for the States, because if national actually ran more of the country in its current state, I'd imagine we would be more like the UK politically speaking where leaders keep changing but nothing progresses... (I'll take a few States out of 50 getting it right, because at least it is something to point at and say "That works!"... only for others to copy) Last edited by Maru; 27-08-2024 at 09:17 AM. |
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27-08-2024, 09:39 AM | #528 | |||
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27-08-2024, 09:41 AM | #529 | |||
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All democratic political systems rely on participants acting in good faith. More often than not, this isn't the case anymore which is why democratic systems are failing and there is no going back
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27-08-2024, 10:44 AM | #530 | |||
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There's a lot of talk here about candidates denying the legitimacy of wins and being sore losers - and that's probably true...
... However I've yet to see that -- other than with Trump -- result in claims that the loser actually won behind the scenes, was still in control of the military, and has secretly been pulling all the strings because "everything is actually going to plan!". Its mad as a sack of cats. Last edited by Quantum Boy; 27-08-2024 at 10:45 AM. |
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27-08-2024, 11:24 AM | #531 | |||
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The Trump stuff is totally dislocated from reality. There is no doubt that the dems are not perfect, but they are just not in the same league as the trump fantasy
The latest is that trump is thinking of dropping Vance and appointing Kennedy as VP. It all just becomes more absurd by the day |
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27-08-2024, 01:44 PM | #532 | |||
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27-08-2024, 04:25 PM | #533 | |||
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The difference is that the Trump Truthers not only fully believe his claims, but in fact some go a whole leap further and construct elaborate fantasies about how he's secretly still in control and it's all been part of some grand plan to take down the system all along. It's 100% reddit/social media fan-fiction. |
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27-08-2024, 05:20 PM | #534 | |||
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Donald Trump reviews Citizen Kane in 2002.
Donald Trump Movie Review - Orson Welles' - " Citizen Kane "
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27-08-2024, 07:37 PM | #535 | |||
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27-08-2024, 10:37 PM | #536 | |||
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28-08-2024, 02:13 AM | #537 | |||
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Dr. Phil interviewed him.
Donald Trump Opens Up to Dr. Phil in Latest Interview | Dr. Phil Primetime
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28-08-2024, 08:12 AM | #538 | |||
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And Trump didn't do that. Do you want me to show you again? Or will you still parrot the television even after seeing? Last edited by Alf; 28-08-2024 at 08:17 AM. |
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29-08-2024, 10:38 AM | #539 | |||
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29-08-2024, 10:53 AM | #540 | |||
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29-08-2024, 11:02 AM | #541 | |||
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29-08-2024, 11:10 AM | #542 | |||
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29-08-2024, 12:22 PM | #543 | |||
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well honestly, Dr Phil grew up on the streets in a cardboard box, let's not criticize the poor man too much
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29-08-2024, 02:32 PM | #544 | |||
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29-08-2024, 09:35 PM | #545 | |||
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Ok. I've heard this more than a few times now. People, when trying to discuss how Trump was "assassinated--I mean!... attempted assasination!".. it comes up during discussion casually and then people keep making the exact same mistake.
Pretty sad that subconsciously so many people were expecting it that their brains have to continuously reprocess the fact he's still with us. Edit: FWIW, people irl are doing it too. Last edited by Maru; 29-08-2024 at 09:35 PM. |
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29-08-2024, 10:12 PM | #546 | |||
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trump made a pretty horrendous comment about Hilary and Kamala and how blow jobs affected their careers. It's pretty sad that writing that trash has been normalised by him
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29-08-2024, 10:40 PM | #547 | |||
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If you ever go around places where people put up funny political humor and signage posted, it's very normal to see sexual references about politicians. The kind of humor that doesn't shy away from making them the butt of the joke (sometimes literally). If you go to DC in front of Congress, you may even see it. People go for maximum effect with these things. DC has some "fun" characters that park out front with their vans, usually with all kinds of conspiratorial nonsense and other crazy politics, from all over the spectrum. Not things you would see in the mainstream, but also other vulgar items that they either sell or just for display just for the sake of making fun of politicians. Some people take their Freedom of Speech very seriously and that means driving around in vehicles, caked in decals and other offensive media, just to drive a stake into what they see as an overly aggressive, but failed, political machine. Closest example nearer to home would be "cowboy humor". There's the family friendly version and the kind that you would really need a thicker skin to withstand. Anyway, what the media portrays is their own version of things, whatever that ends up being. Not everything is "unprecedented". That word gets tossed around too much, when it's almost never actually true. Edit: If I ever get a chance to go somewhere with stuff posted, I'll get pictures, because it's a different world of humor and actually something worth documenting. Last edited by Maru; 29-08-2024 at 10:53 PM. |
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29-08-2024, 11:14 PM | #548 | |||
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that would just not be done here, certainly not so directly I think the worse we had here was David Cameron and how he porked a pigs head. There were lots of references to ham and bacon ..... but really nothing detailed |
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29-08-2024, 11:30 PM | #549 | |||
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I don't know what that means, but it sounds funnier because it sounds so tame Is this like American pie?
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30-08-2024, 12:05 AM | #550 | |||
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