[Crimson Dynamo]

I may be going out on a limb here but if true, and it's a big if,

I'd wager the other lady may have a very different tale to tell...

And the pub

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kate!

No she's always been absolutely lovely. I was confused and shocked. He said I'd upset a customer and told me to leave and not come back. The others.were confused as well as she gave me the money discreetly so they didn't know what on earth was going on. I did try to speak but he just walked away so I left.

The landlord told you that you had upset a customer but would not hear your side. This is even more confusing and I think you've got every right to be angry.

As Annie has said, try going to the pub franchise as I would imagine this is not how they would like their pubs to be run.

You say she gave you the money discreetly. So whats the time line? How long after giving you the money did she complain to the bar staff. Thats another thing, did she complain to the bar staff or directly to the manager.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

I may be going out on a limb here but if true, and it's a big if,

I'd wager the other lady may have a very different tale to tell...

And the pub

You're not helping.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

I may be going out on a limb here but if true, and it's a big if,

I'd wager the other lady may have a very different tale to tell...

And the pub

The other lady, not that she is a lady tbh, has since begged my forgiveness and said she doesn't know why she did it? However I'm done with her. I won't be treated that way when I was so generous with her. You believe what you want, but it's very spiteful amd nasty minded of you.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kate!

The other lady, not that she is a lady tbh, has since begged my forgiveness and said she doesn't know why she did it? However I'm done with her. I won't be treated that way when I was so generous with her. You believe what you want, but it's very spiteful amd nasty minded of you.

WTF these are new details. You still see her after what she did?

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

The landlord told you that you had upset a customer but would not hear your side. This is even more confusing and I think you've got every right to be angry.

As Annie has said, try going to the pub franchise as I would imagine this is not how they would like their pubs to be run.

You say she gave you the money discreetly. So whats the time line? How long after giving you the money did she complain to the bar staff. Thats another thing, did she complain to the bar staff or directly to the manager.

An hour after giving me the money. She complained to the bar staff. They told the manager.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

WTF these are new details. You still see her after what she did?

No, she rang me up. I'll never see her again.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kate!

An hour after giving me the money. She complained to the bar staff. They told the manager.

She told the bar staff and they escalated it to the manager. She must have spun quite a story.

Can you think of any motivation she may have had to do this?

[Ammi]

…(…I guess…)…because the pub manager/staff didn’t ask for your story of the event, Kate…and just barred you on what the lady had said and didn’t allow you a voice…?…it could be seen as being a discriminatory action and that’s why the CAB person felt you may have a legal case…?….but I still feel that possibly having a case and going ahead with that case is something for you to consider carefully and decide…

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

She told the bar staff and they escalated it to the manager. She must have spun quite a story.

Can you think of any motivation she may have had to do this?

No I'm totally bewildered by the whole thing still. She actually cried!

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…(…I guess…)…because the pub manager/staff didn’t ask for your story of the event, Kate…and just barred you on what the lady had said and didn’t allow you a voice…?…it could be seen as being a discriminatory action and that’s why the CAB person felt you may have a legal case…?….but I still feel that possibly having a case and going ahead with that case is something for you to consider carefully and decide…

Agree with this. Kate, there is no case here. You've been treated unfairly but you cannot prove it was discriminatory.

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

Agree with this. Kate, there is no case here. You've been treated unfairly but you cannot prove it was discriminatory.

No, I don't think it was discriminatory. I am reluctant to take it further really. I just hate injustice and liars. They were swayed by her crying.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kate!

No, I don't think it was discriminatory. I am reluctant to take it further really. I just hate injustice and liars. They were swayed by her crying.

The fact she was crying for such a small issue may hint to some mental health issues. Has there been any hint of this over the years. Actually, how long have you known her and how do you know her?

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Kate!

No, I don't think it was discriminatory. I am reluctant to take it further really. I just hate injustice and liars. They were swayed by her crying.

…well, if it’s any consolation…(…and I know that it isn’t right at this moment…)…she’s lost a group of friends and if anything similar were to ever happen again within another group…?…it would be doubtful that they would be swayed again…

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

The fact she was crying for such a small issue may hint to some mental health issues. Has there been any hint of this over the years. Actually, how long have you known her and how do you know her?

I've known her over a year. I used to sit with her at bingo, I found her really pleasant, and a nice lady. When I stopped going a few of us included.her started going to the pub. I'm done with her now though. It's unforgivable.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kate!

I've known her over a year. I used to sit with her at bingo, I found her really pleasant, and a nice lady. When I stopped going a few of us included.her started going to the pub. I'm done with her now though. It's unforgivable.

SHe sounds quite manipulative.

Back to the incident, correct me if wrong. You gave her the money and a hour later she was telling the bar staff. Did anything happen between those two events? What do you believe she told the bar staff?

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

SHe sounds quite manipulative.

Back to the incident, correct me if wrong. You gave her the money and a hour later she was telling the bar staff. Did anything happen between those two events? What do you believe she told the bar staff?

No it was her who gave me the money, 10 pounds. I gave her 25 last week remember? Cos she said she was struggling to pay bills. I believe she told the bar staff I'd taken money from her and wouldn't give it back.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kate!

No it was her who gave me the money, 10 pounds. I gave her 25 last week remember? Cos she said she was struggling to pay bills. I believe she told the bar staff I'd taken money from her and wouldn't give it back.

This implies she told them you stole it. This is making more sense now. Thanks for restating as I still am a bit confused as the order of events.

I'm still not getting a motivation, hence why I say she's manipulative. No beef ever?

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

SHe sounds quite manipulative.

Back to the incident, correct me if wrong. You gave her the money and a hour later she was telling the bar staff. Did anything happen between those two events? What do you believe she told the bar staff?

Originally Posted by GiRTh

This implies she told them you stole it. This is making more sense now. Thanks for restating as I still am a bit confused as the order of events.

I'm still not getting a motivation, hence why I say she's manipulative. No beef ever?

No beef ever. Totally out of the blue. The others were all mystified as well. It felt like it wasn't really happening. I was in shock when I left. As Ammi said she's lost a circle of friends. I can't forgive it.

[bots]

Originally Posted by Kate!

Yes, but to repeat, I did nothing at all wrong. And I wasn't aggressive, I just left the pub very quickly. It's very unfair. I don't expect you'd like it if it happened to you.

i've been barred from more pubs than i can count in my student youth

As i said, there is no legal path to you being allowed to return to the pub, so you were misinformed if you think you can legally do anything about it

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by bots

i've been barred from more pubs than i can count in my student youth

As i said, there is no legal path to you being allowed to return to the pub, so you were misinformed if you think you can legally do anything about it

I'm not intending to.pursue it now anyway. We'll just go elsewhere.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kate!

No beef ever. Totally out of the blue. The others were all mystified as well. It felt like it wasn't really happening. I was in shock when I left. As Ammi said she's lost a circle of friends. I can't forgive it.

We have only had your side. What is hers?

Don't bother to reply as IV heard yours

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Kate!

The other lady, not that she is a lady tbh, has since begged my forgiveness and said she doesn't know why she did it? However I'm done with her. I won't be treated that way when I was so generous with her. You believe what you want, but it's very spiteful amd nasty minded of you.

Tell her that the only way you’ll even come close to forgiving her is if she tells the landlady the truth.

[GiRTh]

Originally Posted by Kate!

No beef ever. Totally out of the blue. The others were all mystified as well. It felt like it wasn't really happening. I was in shock when I left. As Ammi said she's lost a circle of friends. I can't forgive it.

You say she's lost the circle of friends but wasn't it just you who was barred. Will you not be going to that pub anymore? Thats such a shame.

As Annie said, complain to the franchise

[Kate!]

Originally Posted by GiRTh

You say she's lost the circle of friends but wasn't it just you who was barred. Will you not be going to that pub anymore? Thats such a shame.

As Annie said, complain to the franchise

I'll just leave it. We have discussed going elsewhere.