[Livia]

Not to diminish this person's passing, but people are very careful with the pronouns using 'she' or 'they'. But I find it strange that it's still acceptable for the family to say what a wonderful son, brother and uncle he was.

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by arista

but this happens all the time


What Stinks on this James Death
is they are hiding what he died of

Drug OD


Put it on a Front Page


Don't do Illegal drugs

Don’t make up lies. You are fake news

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I doubt he got any more or less abuse than anyone else who appears on TV, its a thick skinned game unfortunately

Disagree

He was punched in the face a couple of years a go because of his sexuality.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by arista

but this happens all the time


What Stinks on this James Death
is they are hiding what he died of

Drug OD


Put it on a Front Page


Don't do Illegal drugs

Nothing 'stinks'.

He was human.

Family and friends are grieving.

It will come out, but the family/friends need respect
They're grieving.

It's not important for us to find out for our own entertainment

Pet the family try to deal with it first at least

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Livia

Not to diminish this person's passing, but people are very careful with the pronouns using 'she' or 'they'. But I find it strange that it's still acceptable for the family to say what a wonderful son, brother and uncle he was.

He was a drag queen.

...so why wouldn't it be acceptable for them to call him their son?

Do you know what a drag queen is and how it differs?

[Livia]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

He was a drag queen.

...so why wouldn't it be acceptable for them to call him their son?

Do you know what a drag queen is and how it differs?

Hmmm... Bad choice of words on my part. I should have said... interesting.

[arista]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Nothing 'stinks'.

He was human.

Family and friends are grieving.

It will come out, but the family/friends need respect
They're grieving.

It's not important for us to find out for our own entertainment

Pet the family try to deal with it first at least

Yes he Was


What Killed Him

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Nope you really don't which is why people just generally should be kind and not so quick to judge.

Not that anyone has with The Viv, but just generally speaking

There's always a causation and more than just the death and addiction. There's a reason WHY and as a society we need more empathy and understanding. Unfortunately, this is lacking for some people.

I agree with you personally.

Tbh society is so bad in general these days, I will controversially say that I'm not surprised that people with poor Mental Health are being pushed over the edge unfortunately.

I don't know what was going on in The Vivienne's life tbh, so maybe I'm really wrong to be mentioning society's ills in this instance.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Liam-

And they spent the last week or so of their life being harassed and abused by cruel homophobic/gender critical weirdos because they dared appear on a tv show at Christmas

Is that what happened?

Some people can be so cruel.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Yeah it sounds like bad taste, this is the thing with social media . People looking for attention...even if it's bad attention.

This.

[ThomasC]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

I agree with you personally.

Tbh society is so bad in general these days, I will controversially say that I'm not surprised that people with poor Mental Health are being pushed over the edge unfortunately.

I don't know what was going on in The Vivienne's life tbh, so maybe I'm really wrong to be mentioning society's ills in this instance.

Social media is dreadful. There's good in it, but also a lot of bad.

I doubt most would be saying what they're typing to their face or out in the open.

No I don't think you're wrong, it just raises a bigger point

It has been clearly evident in threads surrounding Liam Payne's death.

The addiction/mental health problems doesn't define a person. It's not linear. It's not black and white
Behind all of it is a human who has lost their way.

People flippantly put all the blame on them, like it's as easy to resist as putting the kettle on. There's little regard to all the nuances that lead up to that point.

As it hasn't happened to them they can easily judge or if it has happened to them they've been strong enough to get through it, not everyone is.

People also think status changes things. They have the money to services so that's going to fix it. Not always.

I doubt anyone wants a life of addiction and if it was so easy to solve it then surely they would.

Ignorance will continue and so will a lack of empathy unfortunately.

[arista]

"People flippantly put all the blame on them"

Yes but that is normal,
be fair.

James was a Fit young man.

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by arista

[The 'sudden' death of The Vivienne is not being treated
as suspicious, police have confirmed - as tributes pour
in for the 'sweetest soul' who shot to fame
on RuPaul's Drag Race UK.

The star, whose real name was
James Lee Williams, tragically died last week
aged 32 following a glittering career that
launched to new heights when they
won the inaugural season of
RuPaul's Drag Race UK in 2019.]


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Vivienne.html




[The Vivienne's tragic death was
confirmed on Sunday by her
publicist, who paid tribute to
the 'incredibly loved star'.]

The amount of condolences on this that have been ‘disliked’ because it’s a drag queen

[Glenn.]

Originally Posted by Livia

Not to diminish this person's passing, but people are very careful with the pronouns using 'she' or 'they'. But I find it strange that it's still acceptable for the family to say what a wonderful son, brother and uncle he was.

He did drag.

As far as I’m aware he didn’t identify as anything in particular but he created a character as is the case with every drag artist. He is both a wonderful son, brother and uncle as well as his character.

[arista]

I watched a Great Clip when James did Donald Trump Voice
he had fantastic talent
When he was starting out on TV.

[UserSince2005]

Originally Posted by arista

I watched a Great Clip when James did Donald Trump Voice
he had fantastic talent
When he was starting out on TV.

Yes the snatch game with Donald Trump and Margret Thatcher is the best in history.

Youtube video

[arista]

Thank You for adding the Video.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by ThomasC

Social media is dreadful. There's good in it, but also a lot of bad.

I doubt most would be saying what they're typing to their face or out in the open.

No I don't think you're wrong, it just raises a bigger point

It has been clearly evident in threads surrounding Liam Payne's death.

The addiction/mental health problems doesn't define a person. It's not linear. It's not black and white
Behind all of it is a human who has lost their way.

People flippantly put all the blame on them, like it's as easy to resist as putting the kettle on. There's little regard to all the nuances that lead up to that point.

As it hasn't happened to them they can easily judge or if it has happened to them they've been strong enough to get through it, not everyone is.

People also think status changes things. They have the money to services so that's going to fix it. Not always.

I doubt anyone wants a life of addiction and if it was so easy to solve it then surely they would.

Ignorance will continue and so will a lack of empathy unfortunately.

I agree with you about Social Media, with how many people that use them it would be really hard to imagine that they're all bad people.

And I agree with you on Celebrities addictions, a lot of people did just ignore Liam's issues because he was from 1D, and people couldn't imagine anyone from that group having problems.

Obviously those people were wrong, and personally I do think that we need more people to be more compassionate towards anyone in the public eye that is going through some mental health problems, but I doubt that I'll get my wish.

I do controversially wish that some attention seekers on platforms like Twitter and YouTube weren't going around pretending that they have Mental Health issues just to gain new fans, because it takes away from the real cases like Liam Payne, Caroline Flack, and now The Vivienne.

[LaLaLand]

I’ve drawn up a large painting of Viv in tribute. Will be starting it tomorrow.

Such a tragic loss.

[arista]

I’ve drawn up a large painting of Viv in tribute. Will be starting it tomorrow.

Such a tragic loss.

If you post it
ensure you put the


And
All Rights Reserved

And Artist Name

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by LaLaLand

I’ve drawn up a large painting of Viv in tribute. Will be starting it tomorrow.

Such a tragic loss.

……I know that you’ll do such a great job as well, you always do…your likenesses are just incredible…I know that it’s going to be a project that will take time to complete but will you post it on TiBB when you’ve finished, to let us all see…?….

[Beso]

I'm sure his tongue would be as vicious towards certain demographics during his act as some have directed at him.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Beso

I'm sure his tongue would be as vicious towards certain demographics during his act as some have directed at him.

Well roasting is one thing,but if someone has just died....it's a bit weird to make a remark in that way.

[LaLaLand]

Originally Posted by Ammi

……I know that you’ll do such a great job as well, you always do…your likenesses are just incredible…I know that it’s going to be a project that will take time to complete but will you post it on TiBB when you’ve finished, to let us all see…?….

Aw thank you Ammi!

It's 24 inches square so it's pretty big yeah. Full colour (vibrant colour no less) and in oils so might take a while. Starting it tomorrow, will have a good few hours on it.

Will absolutely post when done!

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by LaLaLand

Aw thank you Ammi!

It's 24 inches square so it's pretty big yeah. Full colour (vibrant colour no less) and in oils so might take a while. Starting it tomorrow, will have a good few hours on it.

Will absolutely post when done!

… vibrant colour no less is what they deserve…it’s such a gorgeous tribute of one great talent to another…I think when you have finished and put it on your site, it’ll gain a lot of interest…I’m so looking forward to seeing it and I know how wowed I’ll be with it……