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This Witch doesn't burn
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Prison bosses have been criticised for denying a mother jailed over last summer’s riots the right to spend temporary leave at home with her daughter and sick husband.
Lucy Connolly, who was imprisoned for 31 months for inciting racial hatred in a tweet, has been forced to wait four months in her attempts to secure release on temporary licence, despite being described by one prison expert as an “ideal candidate” for such home leave. Documents seen by The Telegraph suggest that the 42-year-old childminder from Northampton has not yet been granted the leave amid concerns over public and media interest in her case rather than any apparent failure to meet the criteria for temporary release. In her appeal, Connolly cited a deterioration in her 12-year-old daughter’s school behaviour, which is “totally out of character”, and the stress being placed on her sick husband, Ray, a Tory councillor who is suffering from bone marrow failure. Connolly was arrested after posting on X hours after the Southport killings. She spoke of mass deportations and setting fire to asylum hotels “for all I care”. She added: “I feel physically sick knowing what these [Southport] families will now have to endure. If that makes me racist so be it.” Connolly took the post down within four hours, but not before it had been viewed 310,000 times and screenshots taken. She was interviewed by police on Aug 6 and charged three days later. She has been in jail since, having pleaded guilty and then sentenced in October. She has been eligible for release on temporary licence since last November, based on her prison time served. This form of release is open to inmates as a way to “rebuild family ties” and allows for up to two overnight home stays a month. The only offenders excluded under prison rules include category A prisoners, many serving time for violent, terrorist and sexual crimes, those formally listed as escape risks, and suspects facing extradition. Asked to assess the process, Ian Acheson, a former prison governor who has advised the Government on extremism in jails, said: “The apparent foot-dragging over consideration for release on temporary licence is concerning. “It can’t be right that someone who is otherwise eligible is not being considered because of either the prison’s failure to properly risk assess or her ‘notoriety’. It would be perfectly possible for prison authorities to set conditions that precludes any media exposure. “In my opinion, and given the offence details and the background to her custodial behaviour I have seen, she ought to be an ideal candidate for early release to allow her reintegration to start. Many more risky individuals are walking free as a result of Labour’s emergency mass release legislation.” ‘Victim of two-tier justice’ Richard Tice, the deputy leader of Reform UK, said: “Lucy is the victim of two-tier justice because she is white and Sir Keir Starmer ordered the judiciary to impose stiff sentences last August. It is as simple as that. “She should be released. Real criminals convicted of violent crimes are being let out while she is detained.” Prison service sources denied that Connolly’s application for release on temporary licence had been blocked and said it was being considered by the governor at HMP Drake Hall in Staffordshire, to which Connolly has recently been transferred. A spokesman said: “Decisions on release on temporary licence and home detention curfew are made following uncompromising risk assessments to prioritise public safety. “These are discretionary schemes, and each case is rigorously scrutinised, considering the severity of the offence, the prisoner’s conduct and the potential impact on victims and the community.” This seems particularly harsh given her husband is ill? and has Ricky Jones served any time yet? As I understand it his case wont be heard until September The Telegraph nope good old Ricky is still walking the streets https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crim...-b1205817.html
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everyone just wants the system to be fair and equally applied to all.
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This is just awful.
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yet we have guys like this let out to make more room...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...d=26aeb14bcc4b A prisoner who was freed as part of Sir Keir Starmer’s controversial prison scheme killed someone on the same day he was released. Liam Matthews, 26, left HMP Holme House in Stockton-on-Tees, Durham, just hours before the “brutal” knife attack. Father-of-one Lewis Bell, 26, was hunted down “like prey” by Matthews, Ashton White, 18, and Sean McLeod, 23, over a drug dispute, a court heard. After a trial at Teesside Crown Court, Matthews and White were convicted of his manslaughter, and McLeod of his murder. The Ministry of Justice (MoJ) has since insisted it had “no choice” but to implement the emergency early release programme. In June last year, Matthews was jailed for 22 months at the same court for violent disorder after kicking and stamping on his victim in a street fight. However, he was released early as part of Labour’s plan to free up space amid a boom in prison population during the first month of the emergency measures. After his release on the morning of Sept 18, Matthews was involved in the fatal knife attack, which resulted in Mr Bell being left to die in the street. Robert Jenrick, the shadow justice secretary, said: “This tragic death was preventable. “Prisoners sentenced for violent offences obviously shouldn’t be let out early. “The Justice Secretary’s plans to let out more serious offenders are a very real risk to the public. She must think again. “Instead, the Government need to deport more foreign nationals offenders clogging up cells and reduce the remand population in prison by speeding up trials.”61053e01a075cdab6040 Now lets get this straight, the woman got 31 months for a social media post, but he got 22 months for stamping and kicking a man....but we dont have a two tier justice system...got it
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Woman who called for mass murder based on racism, aka, terrorism, isn’t let out of prison to tell her daughter off for not focusing on school, shocking
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Tbf even the article said that she made a tweet talking about how she doesn't care if one of the Hotels that hold a lot of immigrants caught fire, that's against the law to tweet stuff like that out and rightly so too.
She should've thought about her family before making the tweet. The only people that deserve leniency with threatening Social Media posts are kids imo.
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White woman jailed for hurty words on the internet denied the right to see her husband and kids. Meanwhile, Asian paedophile given the right to remain here because it would be unnecessarily cruel to his kids to deport him.
And people wonder why Reform is ahead in the polls. Last edited by Livia; 05-04-2025 at 06:38 PM. |
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Drink the Kool Aid
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Ray Connolly knew how easily his wife was triggered by the suffering and death of children. He says she was always writing to MPs and to the papers if there was ever a case of neglect or kids being harmed on the news. In 2011, the Connollys lost their firstborn, Harry, aged 19 months as a result of atrocious failures in NHS care. After multiple hospital visits, and Lucy pleading with a paediatrician to put the listless toddler on a drip, the Connollys took Harry home and laid him in a cot by their bed. They woke at 4am to find the lifeless body of their tiny son. Lucy screamed at Ray to do CPR while she called an ambulance and Ray, who is an immensely practical chap, best person in a crisis, did his best. “But rigor mortis had already set in,” he tells me, the horror of that moment never to be extinguished.
There followed a bruising battle to “get justice for Harry”. Although the coroner found a catalogue of catastrophic failures at the hospital, it was not ruled to have committed gross negligence manslaughter as Harry’s devastated parents had wanted. (“Those doctors have got away with killing my son,” Lucy said.) The Connollys went on to have a “rainbow baby”, two years later, a daughter called Holly*, now aged 12, but Lucy, who received a diagnosis of PTSD after she lost her baby, never truly recovered. Hearing about a mass stabbing of little girls in Southport was enough to tip her over the edge. When Ray got home that day, he found her in the kitchen with the six toddlers she looked after. “Lucy was crying.” In the absence of any clear information from the authorities about the killer’s identity (Rudakubana was initially described to a disbelieving public only as a Cardiff-born choirboy) and with Merseyside police and Government ministers still insisting the massacre was “not terror-related” the situation on social media was extremely volatile. There was widespread anger that such a monstrous attack had been targeted at the most vulnerable members of our society. That was the state Lucy Connolly was in when she posted the fifty-one words that would ruin her life for a second time, and turn her into the ideal poster girl for Starmer’s pledge to impose heavy sentences on “far-Right thugs”. Ray knew nothing about the tweet until the police turned up at the house and took his wife away. It was around 8am and all of the infants Lucy looked after were being dropped off for the day by their parents. (Mrs Connolly’s precious charges have included Nigerian, Somalian, Jamaican, Bangladeshi, Lithuanian and Polish, as well as white British, kids. “It’s like the blimmin’ United Nations in here,” the childminder used to joke.) Lucy went with the police “quiet as a lamb, she thought if she did as she was told everything would be fine,” recalls Ray. I ask him if he ever thought the family’s tragic history and his wife’s mental distress would help Lucy with her case. He shakes his head. “I knew things were bad when Starmer and the Home Office started going on about the ‘far-Right’, they obviously had an agenda.” Over the next few days, Lucy Connolly ceased to be a person and became a demonised figure stripped of nuance and humanity. “Conservative councillor’s racist wife.” That was her name from now on. Looking back, we can see how it was expedient for panicking politicians to blame social media for civil unrest rather than acknowledge the growing anxiety about uncontrolled immigration that fuelled the rioting. (That would have meant officialdom shouldering some of the blame.) While social media can amplify content that inflames tensions there is little or no evidence that a single post persuades law-abiding people to engage in violent protest. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...-taylor-swift/ |
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Jesus, that's heart breaking.
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Sami Allerdici
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We should cut their throats |
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Against the law to be truthful.. Disgusting. People marching every week against Israel say much the same, bit they have their kids with them |
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Any thoughts on Ricky Jones...No? thought so you are literally a parody at this stage
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Good thing for his family is he is still walking the streets..
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Yeah, I don't get why anyone feels sorry for her.
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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…I think for me, I’m finding stories such as this to be quite ‘manipulated’ by all media sources so it’s difficult to know the actual truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth…I read another article, I think it was the Daily Mail that said that the process was happening of Lucy Connolly being given home visits and that it was all going through certain risk assessment stages atm…(…but I don’t know if a delay I’d being furthered by a transfer of prison, which has happened apparently…)…I also read that her solicitor is appealing for a full release for her prison time …so if that’s going through as well, it could be something that’s happening fairly soon and therefore possibly holding up any ‘family visitation’ in favour of a full release….all of these things happening could be causing a delay…I don’t know, because I don’t know the specifics and the information we get from all media sources is so manipulated to agendas…and in itself to ‘incite and encourage divide’….
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it's becoming more and more obvious that nearly every news story is a manipulation. The media, and i mean all media, know that the best engagement comes from making the reader angry, so thats what they do and their viewership fall for it every time
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Quand il pleut, il pleut
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…yeah it’s kind of become a bit ‘boy who cried wolf’ in terms of media but I think that applies to social media as well and there possibly is some truth in there in some articles but it’s checking it all out and trying to find it…‘sensationalising’ a story and manipulating it is just so commonplace now to the point of becoming what we’ve come to expect and what often arrives…I guess a parallel could be used of there being power in the words that resulted in the conviction in the first place…?…there is power in the sensationalisation of a story../…not so much power in the truth …
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Drink the Kool Aid
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Its interesting that no one (that i can gather) has been jailed for taking to the streets and shouting that they want a violent ethnic cleansing of Israel week after week (as well as using slitting throat gestures and placards)
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The entire sentencing of people for the slightest misdemeanoir during last year's protest/riots was sensationalized by that twat we have to call PM.
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Because she’s a white woman that hates brown people just like they do
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Also, ignore the fact this woman has cared for children from countries all over the world because it doesn't fit your twisted, hateful agenda. |
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Still waiting for Liam to say what he thinks about Ricky Jones who is still walking the streets after inciting a crowd to cut peoples throats, I guess that is okay as he is Brown and a Counciller, 31 months for a tweet which she took down is pretty scandalous, men get less for rape and domestic assault
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I can't even fathom it but you must be right..
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