[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by Quantum Boy

How on earth does this prove that Mickey was "right" and validate his comments in any way even if she has dumped her girlfriend for Chris and realised she's bi.

He didn't say "Oh I think you might still be interested in men" he said give HIM four days and he'd turn her straight. Not that 4 days with Chris or another male she liked would catch her interest.

Now don't get me wrong. I don't like Chris much or trust his motives. I think at 32 he's too old for a 21 year old.

But fk me...

He's not a rubber-faced horror show 70+ year old whose taken ten too many blows to the head . This doesn't vindicate Mickey or his comments in the slightest. Yuck. Gross. Etc.

Take your own advice and take some propananole

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its interesting that Baked Potato and Nathan got hammered on here for a "showmance" every day during normal BB,, but the same people who hammered them fell silent with the clear showmance in CBB

Why was that?

[Vicky.]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Did I understand that correctly? she was receiving videos from Jo Jo during the show?

Jo Jo has not covered herself in glory here, and anyone still denying that Chris is part of the break up needs to listen to the video ...poor Kath...she has been monumentally betrayed

I remember JoJo saying something about recording videos before she went in to be sent while she was in..

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

You didn't love Chris telling Jojo to "lick it, you freak" because there was a stain on his shorts?

That moment was reminiscent of Romeo & Juliet.

Originally Posted by thesheriff443

Take your own advice and take some propananole

Some wot?

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Its interesting that Baked Potato and Nathan got hammered on here for a "showmance" every day during normal BB,, but the same people who hammered them fell silent with the clear showmance in CBB

Why was that?

Well, it's starting to look like it wasn't a showmance at all, they're two bacon's in love .

[arista]

[I believe Jojo was potentially tipping Chris off
at some point about what happens after...]



Yes Maru
Valid Point

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by arista

[I believe Jojo was potentially tipping Chris off
at some point about what happens after...]



Yes Maru
Valid Point

To be fair it could be that she was saying she didn't want to explicitly have that conversation without speaking to her (then) current partner first which is a decent choice.

I also don't think she was wrong to end that relationship necessarily, on the surface it all seems a bit messy and if it ended that easily it wasn't anything very real.

However I do want to reiterate my opinion that her getting into a relationship with Chris, if that is what happens, would be a terrible idea and will inevitably go badly in the end.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Vicky.

I remember JoJo saying something about recording videos before she went in to be sent while she was in..

Ah that would make sense thank you

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by bots

All this proves is that Mickey was 100% correct on day 1

Please keep away from all women if that's your mentality. It's giving "no means yes" vibes. Gross.

[bots]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Please keep away from all women if that's your mentality. It's giving "no means yes" vibes. Gross.

Absolute rubbish. Firstly, i was commenting on Mickey. Do not put your insane prejudices on me

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by bots

Absolute rubbish. Firstly, i was commenting on Mickey. Do not put your insane prejudices on me

In what world does it prove Mickey was correct in any way? He make a joke about forcing sex on her to turn her straight and now because she’s dumped her girlfriend it proves him right. Suggesting that is ****ing disgusting, whether you want to admit it to yourself or not.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Maru

I've never heard of it as a stereotype personally, but some right wing media have picked it up on aspects of it (there are others):

Youtube video

“In adolescence we Experiment doing bad things” and suggests that’s what JoJo is doing by saying she’s a lesbian… “doing bad things” … great homophobia there, Candace. I expect no less, of course.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by BBXX

“In adolescence we Experiment doing bad things” and suggests that’s what JoJo is doing by saying she’s a lesbian… “doing bad things” … great homophobia there, Candace. I expect no less, of course.

She was specifically talking about smoking, stop changing words to suit an agenda

[caprimint]

Originally Posted by bots

All this proves is that Mickey was 100% correct on day 1

So true

Iconic legend

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

She was specifically talking about smoking, stop changing words to suit an agenda

“And to experiment with doing bad things… once upon a time we had cigarettes and they smoked them in high school. Now we live in a world where people can change…can experiment with their gender but typically it’s an adolescent phase and a cry for attention”

She’s saying smoking cigarettes was something bad adolescent people did and now it’s transformed into people experimenting with their gender. Thats what she’s saying.

JoJo is 21. Young people DO experiment with their gender identity and their sexuality, it’s a given and it happens. It’s not really up to anyone to tell someone else what they thing that persons sexuality is, it’s up to that person to find out for themselves. Why is Candace Owens, a grown women, making public comments in interviews saying she doesn’t believe the sexuality of a young woman? What a weird thing to do.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by BBXX

“And to experiment with doing bad things… once upon a time we had cigarettes and they smoked them in high school. Now we live in a world where people can change…can experiment with their gender but typically it’s an adolescent phase and a cry for attention”

She’s saying smoking cigarettes was something bad adolescent people did and now it’s transformed into people experimenting with their gender. Thats what she’s saying.

No she isnt

[Gusto Brunt]

Looks like their 'romance' and weddings preparations will bring into play a big money reality TV show that will air in the UK and the USA.

[Zizu]

Originally Posted by BBXX

In what world does it prove Mickey was correct in any way? He make a joke about forcing sex on her to turn her straight and now because she’s dumped her girlfriend it proves him right. Suggesting that is ****ing disgusting, whether you want to admit it to yourself or not.

When did he say anything about forcing her to have sex with him ??

It was clearly just a light hearted , tongue in cheek comment suggesting he’s so desirable that she will turn straight .

Just a quick glance at him would confirm that he wasn’t serious - he’s not an idiot


It’s something men of his age/ generation have said to or about lesbians for as long as I can remember - guys still say similar things in pubs and bars now .. then they all laugh because it’s a joke

[Oliver_W]

I hope BB paid for Kath's flights etc, that's a lot of money just to be dumped.

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Zizu

When did he say anything about forcing her to have sex with him ??

It was clearly just a light hearted , tongue in cheek comment suggesting he’s so desirable that she will turn straight .

Just a quick glance at him would confirm that he wasn’t serious - he’s not an idiot


It’s something men of his age/ generation have said to or about lesbians for as long as I can remember - guys still say similar things in pubs and bars now .. then they all laugh because it’s a joke

The same men then wonder why women are staying single and aren’t reproducing with them. Lol

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by BBXX

The same men then wonder why women are staying single and aren’t reproducing with them. Lol

Sorry what?

[Maru]

Originally Posted by Zizu

When did he say anything about forcing her to have sex with him ??

It was clearly just a light hearted , tongue in cheek comment suggesting he’s so desirable that she will turn straight .

Just a quick glance at him would confirm that he wasn’t serious - he’s not an idiot


It’s something men of his age/ generation have said to or about lesbians for as long as I can remember - guys still say similar things in pubs and bars now .. then they all laugh because it’s a joke

Supposedly one of the L&L audience members said that Jojo asked them if they'd aired what he had said to her. Including the whole thing that happened where he got upset when Chris gave him a look. She put her fist up into the air and seemed very happy about it being aired. Interpret of that what you will.

I can see where the comments can be taken a poor way by some people. I certainly didn't like her bragging he'd "gone off the rails on her in the past" and I think the use of "rope" was too open ended (no pun intended). That is, the some people who receive the comments, not random strangers on the internet who haven't suffered any real change to their day or even just people who are getting offended on other people's behalf for a hobby. Like collective empathy or collected consciousness is actually real (it's not...).

Being offended has become like a game of chess. If one can find "problematic" language or flaws in the other person, collect them in a bag, it's easy enough to rearrange the parts to fit certain conclusions that such and such person clearly has certain intentions... that's how smearing works. The internet is the ideal playground for picking up this skill.

My experience has been if someone was looking to sexual harass or want an encounter, they almost always do it when the other person felt most isolated (so usually not in a group setting). They're also not hiding it and the behavior will become more brazen & uncomfortable the more time spent. A predator likes to cause fear in the other person as that's a big part of the appeal. I'm very comfortable around men and have almost never had a problem with jokes, but those men also tended to treat me more like a sibling. But there wasn't any love bombing (massive red flag) and that doesn't mean they can't get the wrong idea either from interactions, but it's not the same as wanting to r*** another person...

I find it hard to believe Mickey would announce those desires on television or in front of production staff who would have the means to call for assistance should they felt it come become a real safety problem. In the UK maybe(?) they might've considered his comments as evidence of a number of crimes. Here it would've just been seen as a badly delivered joke and highly inappropriate. (So they had the advantage to call if it were necessary)

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Crimson Dynamo

Sorry what?

Men who say **** like that wonder why women are staying single in record numbers.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by BBXX

Men who say **** like that wonder why women are staying single in record numbers.

Yes because of Increased Career Opportunities and Independence

do you have an issue with women wanting this?

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Maru

Supposedly one of the L&L audience members said that Jojo asked them if they'd aired what he had said to her. Including the whole thing that happened where he got upset when Chris gave him a look. She put her fist up into the air and seemed very happy about it being aired. Interpret of that what you will.

I can see where the comments can be taken a poor way by some people. I certainly didn't like her bragging he'd "gone off the rails on her in the past" and I think the use of "rope" was too open ended (no pun intended). That is, the some people who receive the comments, not random strangers on the internet who haven't suffered any real change to their day or even just people who are getting offended on other people's behalf for a hobby. Like collective empathy or collected consciousness is actually real (it's not...).

Being offended has become like a game of chess. If one can find "problematic" language or flaws in the other person, collect them in a bag, it's easy enough to rearrange the parts to fit certain conclusions that such and such person clearly has certain intentions... that's how smearing works. The internet is the ideal playground for picking up this skill.

My experience has been if someone was looking to sexual harass or want an encounter, they almost always do it when the other person felt most isolated (so usually not in a group setting). They're also not hiding it and the behavior will become more brazen & uncomfortable the more time spent. A predator likes to cause fear in the other person as that's a big part of the appeal. I'm very comfortable around men and have almost never had a problem with jokes, but those men also tended to treat me more like a sibling. But there wasn't any love bombing (massive red flag) and that doesn't mean they can't get the wrong idea either from interactions, but it's not the same as wanting to r*** another person...

I find it hard to believe Mickey would announce those desires on television or in front of production staff who would have the means to call for assistance should they felt it come become a real safety problem. In the UK maybe(?) they might've considered his comments as evidence of a number of crimes. Here it would've just been seen as a badly delivered joke and highly inappropriate. (So they had the advantage to call if it were necessary)

Yes I also believe it was a joke, as I said, I just really don’t think there is a place for those sorts of jokes anymore. This isn’t the 50s, men are far more emotionally intelligent with each generation that passes, by and large, and women are no longer property.

Comedy is of course extremely subjective but there isn’t anything clever about a 70 year old man joking to a 21 year lesbian that he’ll tie her up and have sex with her to change her sexuality - it’s bottom of the barrel kind of humour and for the most part is looked on by society as embarrassing and outdated thankfully.

There is absolutely a place for clever close-to-the-bone ‘offensive’ humour in society, but this was not it, it was just… grim.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by BBXX

a 70 year old man joking to a 21 year lesbian.

she has stated she is not a lesbian