[Tinsel balls]

I actually liked Johnny in that conversation ,it showed he was not happy with Andrews constant put downs and thinking he knows everything,shows Johnny wont follow the twonk .

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

That comment reminded me of the godfather. It was you, Fredo!

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I actually liked Johnny in that conversation ,it showed he was not happy with Andrews constant put downs and thinking he knows everything,shows Johnny wont follow the twonk .

Yes, that was an interesting development. He'd clearly had enough.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I half expected Andrew to hug Daniel and tell him that

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Yes, that was an interesting development. He'd clearly had enough.

But why should Andrew save Daniel, when he nominated him? I wouldn't save someone who put me up for eviction.

[Christmas Spirit]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

that would be so funny, they won't do it though

Well from what I heard Andrew only thought about saving himself the selfish pig , so it would serve him right . While he's there grinning like the cat that got the cream thinking he's safe then BAM BB throws that bombshell into the mix .

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But why should Andrew save Daniel, when he nominated him? I wouldn't save someone who put me up for eviction.

I don't think Daniel walked away because of that but because of the manner in which Andrew speaks to him. Andrew is pretty dismissive if Jonny and tends to talk at or over him. That's what I think Jonny had had enough of, and why he left.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I don't think Daniel walked away because of that but because of the manner in which Andrew speaks to him. Andrew is pretty dismissive if Jonny and tends to talk at or over him. That's what I think Jonny had had enough of, and why he left.

The edit is not how it happened at all. I watched live feed and Johnny came back. He was only upset because Andrew wouldn't save Daniel.

[Tinsel balls]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But why should Andrew save Daniel, when he nominated him? I wouldn't save someone who put me up for eviction.

I don't think it was because of that though Vanessa,I just think Johnny knows how bad Andrew is coming across,maybe he doesn't want to be seen as condoning it or agreeing with it.

[Christmas Spirit]

Originally Posted by Garfie

I don't think Daniel walked away because of that but because of the manner in which Andrew speaks to him. Andrew is pretty dismissive if Jonny and tends to talk at or over him. That's what I think Jonny had had enough of, and why he left.

Andrew enjoys the sound of his own voice !!! He's a ignorant pig .

I'll never forget how nice as pie he was when he first entered when he was trying hard to fool his hm's into thinking he was decent , I could see through the sleaze bag from then .

He was trying too hard to the point where it was cringy , thought he was going to massage India next as he was grovelling like a loser so much at the fear she'd nominate him .

[Patricia4]

In this game you should save yourself..

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by Patricia4

In this game you should save yourself..

This! Those who say they wouldn't are just trying to look good to the public. It's so transparent!

[Christmas Spirit]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

This! Those who say they wouldn't are just trying to look good to the public. It's so transparent!

It depends on the person. If your instant thought is "oh I've got to save myself" then that's selfish IMO , I'd want to save someone who deserves it and then I'd think maybe about saving myself but it wouldn't be my first thought.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I don't think it was because of that though Vanessa,I just think Johnny knows how bad Andrew is coming across,maybe he doesn't want to be seen as condoning it or agreeing with it.

Yes, I agree with this. I think you've hit the nail on the head.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

At least Andrew contributes to the show. Johnny is just a dullard.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Yes, I agree with this. I think you've hit the nail on the head.

But Andrew is right. Johnny is a sheep. Do we ever see him say his opinion? He usually just goes with the flow.

[Christmas Spirit]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

At least Andrew contributes to the show. Johnny is just a dullard.

Getting his bum waxed and mooning everyone by shoving his bum on the glass . Wow he contributes sooo much his mum must be Soo proud of him !!! .

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

This! Those who say they wouldn't are just trying to look good to the public. It's so transparent!

But isn't that the point of the game- to gain public approval. I think the whole point Jonny was trying to make was that it would look bad to the public if he saved himself rather than someone else. Andrew then focused on reasons for not saving Daniel when that wasn't really the point Jonny was making. Andrew just presumed that because he was too busy talking to listen carefully enough.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by Garfie

But isn't that the point of the game- to gain public approval. I think the whole point Jonny was trying to make was that it would look bad to the public if he saved himself rather than someone else. Andrew then focused on reasons for not saving Daniel when that wasn't really the point Jonny was making. Andrew just presumed that because he was too busy talking to listen carefully enough.

But if he did that the public would call him fake.

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But Andrew is right. Johnny is a sheep. Do we ever see him say his opinion? He usually just goes with the flow.

He doesn't often seem to state an opinion but he was trying to during the live feed but Andrew wouldn't listen to him, hence he walked away. I think the fact that he chose to do this shows he isn't entirely a sheep.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by Garfie

He doesn't often seem to state an opinion but he was trying to during the live feed but Andrew wouldn't listen to him, hence he walked away. I think the fact that he chose to do this shows he isn't entirely a sheep.

I think he's nice, but he has no backbone.

[Christmas Spirit]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

But if he did that the public would call him fake.

We already know Andrew is fake AF

[Garfie]

Originally Posted by Vanessa

I think he's nice, but he has no backbone.

Poor old Jonny! A sheep with no backbone! I don't think he's the sharpest tool in the box and I think he lacks confidence. At least he tried to make a point.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by Garfie

Poor old Jonny! A sheep with no backbone! I don't think he's the sharpest tool in the box and I think he lacks confidence. At least he tried to make a point.

I would respect him more if he stood up for himself more. He doesn't have to always nod and agree.

[bots]

Jonny didnt get in a strop, he simply stated that the public may not view Andrew saving himself kindly. Which is true. If Andrew chooses not to take his advice its up to him. Not sure how it can be seen as a big deal