[Kazanne]

I found this video interesting of Christopher Biggins views on marriage,very much like Anns so not all gay people agree with Shane J,they have the decency to appreciate we don't all want the same things,it looks like he has the same views as Amanda and Wayne.

Youtube video

[Cherie]

Well he is entitled to his opinion and it seems to me many of the older generation of gays are much more tolerant of others views, which is an interesting turnaround in these days of open mindedness

[waterhog]

very old school and not understanding things change.

allot of things we used to do in the past we now look back with shame.

[Niamh.]

It does seem to be a generational thing mostly

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by waterhog

very old school and not understanding things change.

allot of things we used to do in the past we now look back with shame.

is he not entitled to be old school? must everyone be singing from the same hymnsheet?

[luvjustin]

Prime example of that generation of self loathing, aplogitic gay person.

They are so desperate to be liked that they’ll align themselves with people who despise them deep down.

[luvjustin]

Originally Posted by Cherie

is he not entitled to be old school? must everyone be singing from the same hymnsheet?

No he ****ing isn’t. Sometimes people need to be shouted down when their backwards opinions are this damaging.

[Kazanne]

I think we should take Amandas advice,ditch the labels ,live and let live,no one gender needs to be better than the other, we are all entitalled to our own views,we don't HAVE to like anyone,lets just as I said live and let live,it's not hard to do,all people should be toleratant ,not just a selective few.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

No he ****ing isn’t. Sometimes people need to be soured down when their backwards opinions are this damaging.

Calm down,blimey

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

No he ****ing isn’t. Sometimes people need to be soured down when their backwards opinions are this damaging.

yay let's swop one oppressive attitude for another, is this your progress?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Cherie

yay let's swop one oppressive attitude for another, is this your progress?

They don't do their cause any favours do they, just so aggressive

[luvjustin]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I think we should take Amandas advice,ditch the labels ,live and let live,no one gender needs to be better than the other, we are all entitalled to our own views,we don't HAVE to like anyone,lets just as I said live and let live,it's not hard to do,all people should be toleratant ,not just a selective few.

Ah this argument. Ok.

This is usually the response when people are trying to stand up for the rights of a minority. Why can’t we all just have our own views? Why can’t we all have rights? What about the white man? Please.

The same response people (usually white people) have towards the “black lives matter” movement. Or “me too”.

Fighting for the rights of a minority group is not about making them special. It is about amking them equal.

[luvjustin]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

They don't do their cause any favours do they, just so aggressive

Aggression is sometimes the only way people will listen.

Stonewall being a prime example.

[joeysteele]

A few people found who were less likely to hold the view certain rights need not be changed.
Their word becomes Gospel.

Dismissing almost the vast majority of lgbt communities fighting for to be seen as equals with equal rights.

Those few people did not have power to vote in changes.
Ann did, you learn a fair bit about people once you see what they would do or do when they have influence or power.

[Alf]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

Prime example of that generation of self loathing, aplogitic gay person.

They are so desperate to be liked that they’ll align themselves with people who despise them deep down.

You just sound a bit paranoid to me.

[rusticgal]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

No he ****ing isn’t. Sometimes people need to be shouted down when their backwards opinions are this damaging.

It's aggressive attacks like that that earn you no respect...everyone has different beliefs and opinions...live and let live.

[luvjustin]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

It's aggressive attacks like that that earn you no respect...everyone has different beliefs and opinions...live and let live.

No.

I do not agree.

Live and let live changes nothing. Gets **** all done.

The world is not changed by sitting back and letting everything think their backwards opinions are valid.

[luvjustin]

Originally Posted by Alf

You just sound a bit paranoid to me.

The woman is down on official record voting against the rights of gay people.

It can’t be any clearer than that.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

No.

I do not agree.

Live and let live changes nothing. Gets **** all done.

The world is not changed by sitting back and letting everything think their backwards opinions are valid.

The world has changed a lot since Anns , Amanda and Waynes day,and not all for the better, what exactly do you want ?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

Prime example of that generation of self loathing, aplogitic gay person.

They are so desperate to be liked that they’ll align themselves with people who despise them deep down.

wow what a horrible view of life

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

The woman is down on official record voting against the rights of gay people.

It can’t be any clearer than that.

That was years ago,she is retired ,she was not the only one to vote against it and she did explain her reason for doing so,but this is 2018 and a game show,none of the others have been judged on their past,so why her?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by luvjustin

The woman is down on official record voting against the rights of gay people.

It can’t be any clearer than that.

and what did shanes parents vote for in Australia 20 years ago?

[Ammi]

...’we can’t just throw away everything, we have to hold on to some things’ is just his own perspective of Christopher Biggins being perfectly happy in his civil partnership, he doesn’t personally feel the need for marriage...which I think is the difference in a ‘how I’m affected personally in my life’ and ‘the affect on a collective community’, which is more how Shane J is in his views...

[luvjustin]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

That was years ago,she is retired ,she was not the only one to vote against it and she did explain her reason for doing so,but this is 2018 and a game show,none of the others have been judged on their past,so why her?

She still holds those views. She still stands by those opinions.

And her reasoning was BS.

[luvjustin]

Originally Posted by Trip

Amanda doesn't seem to acknowledge that she only had the right to a legal same sex civil partnership due to others fighting for that right. Riding on the activism and bravery of others without appreciating them?

Exactly.