[arista]

Live Debate now on LBC


Pay up or they will close


Possible new charge of £12,000


You have been paying 9K for a Decade

Both the Conservatives and Labour Party agree they must go up

[Mystic Mock]

Shouldn't they be going down?

I mean the students struggle to already pay off the fee that's there, let alone adding another 3 grand to the tally.

Talk about two parties being tone deaf.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Shouldn't they be going down?

I mean the students struggle to already pay off the fee that's there, let alone adding another 3 grand to the tally.

Talk about two parties being tone deaf.

No
There are less International students
Now fellas.


If you Do not pay up
Shut it Down

[Redway]

Originally Posted by arista

No
There are less International students
Now fellas.


If you Do not pay up
Shut it Down

Have you ever been normal?

[Cherie]

Hold up? what about Wales and Scotland?

[Crimson Dynamo]

most colleges and unis are a scam

they should be investigated for what they are actually providing

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Hold up? what about Wales and Scotland?

I don't know about Wales, but aren't Scottish universities subsidised by the UK government?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

I don't know about Wales, but aren't Scottish universities subsidised by the UK government?

Yes its free to go to Uni in Scotland and it costs a third of what English students pay in Wales....so if Unis are going bust maybe make it fairer across the board for all students

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Yes its free to go to Uni in Scotland and it costs a third of what English students pay in Wales....so if Unis are going bust maybe make it fairer across the board for all students

Undergrad is free for Scottish residents, which is very different to it "being free" - a large amount comes from international students and postgrad studies (which I can assure you are not free).

I agree it should be fair across the board but everyone deserves equal access to higher education without going into large amounts of debt, so personally I would be more in favour of a means-tested system (UK wide) where people pay fees proportionate to income (parent's income for school leavers, individual income for mature student undergrad).

We're already sliding into a hilarious idiocracy of people who believe that you develop the same level of critical thinking skills by becoming a unionised bricklayer as you do with a Redbrick university level education... let's not make it even harder for people to access learning.

[bots]

industry uses universities for cheap labour and research. Increase what they have to pay, problem sorted

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Soldier Boy

Undergrad is free for Scottish residents, which is very different to it "being free" - a large amount comes from international students and postgrad studies (which I can assure you are not free).

I agree it should be fair across the board but everyone deserves equal access to higher education without going into large amounts of debt, so personally I would be more in favour of a means-tested system (UK wide) where people pay fees proportionate to income (parent's income for school leavers, individual income for mature student undergrad).

We're already sliding into a hilarious idiocracy of people who believe that you develop the same level of critical thinking skills by becoming a unionised bricklayer as you do with a Redbrick university level education... let's not make it even harder for people to access learning.

I worked at Imperial College in Postgraduate Education so I am aware of the incredible amounts overseas students pay as well as postgraduates, but for Scottish and Welsh students they dont go into postgraduate education with a 27,000 plus debt which doesn't seem fair ....make it equitable across the board, ask every student to pay 5,000 a year and increase overseas students fees they are eyewatering already but seem content to pay

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

most colleges and unis are a scam

they should be investigated for what they are actually providing

Agree with that, the reason I left as it was so frustrating, every year admissions opened in October, everyone knew this, but management would decide in May what 'target' numbers they wanted in courses and just expect staff to magic up the numbers, and then alot of the time they didn't have the space for the numbers they wanted...carnage

students were just used as cash cows