[Oliver_W]

She's clearly very privileged, and has a high opinion of herself and her place in the world.

But beneath that I admire her passion, and how she stands up for her friends.

[Billy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

Completely off topic but were you King Billy back in the day or was that another user?

No that wasn’t me!

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Billy

But so did Martha. Martha lied, Martha berated and belittled but she did it with a nursery nurse smile on her face for the sake of painting Hanah to be the villain.

Hanah acted out of frustration at the above, she could have ‘walked away” like you said but why would you want to back down when someone is trying to turn people against you.

And she was going to walk away until Martha's gob went again.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Billy

No that wasn’t me!

thank you for clarifying

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Billy

But so did Martha. Martha lied, Martha berated and belittled but she did it with a nursery nurse smile on her face for the sake of painting Hanah to be the villain..

I agree Martha also behaved terribly, I’m not defending her.

Hanah acted out of frustration at the above, she could have ‘walked away” like you said but why would you want to back down when someone is trying to turn people against you

Because she said herself she didn’t want to hear her speak. I agree Hanah should stand and defend herself. Telling someone that she’s told them she didn’t want to hear her speak so don’t speak is not a defence, it’s an order.

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Beso

And she was going to walk away until Martha's gob went again.

I laughed when Martha said ...bye then....and Hanah said oh I am going to take my shoes off and sit down


as an aside I saw this before I saw clip and someone posted that Hanah saying she was taking her shoes off meant she was going to start a fight

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I laughed when Martha said ...bye then....and Hanah said oh I am going to take my shoes off and sit down


as an aside I saw this before I saw clip and someone posted that Hanah saying she was taking her shoes off meant she was going to start a fight

Wad it someone who pretended they dont understand hannah's street talk?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Beso

Wad it someone who pretended they dont understand hannah's street talk?

Cant recall who it was, but when I read it, I thought it was pretty random

[BBXX]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I laughed when Martha said ...bye then....and Hanah said oh I am going to take my shoes off and sit down

I thought that was hilarious.

[Oliver_W]

It's the kind of thing I'd do, if I know someone doesn't like me I deliberately sit with them and force conversation

[Ammi]

…one of the things that I really like with Hanah…?…all of her responses during the escalation of the row might not have been textbook perfect…?..but regardless of fault and where it lay in different parts of it all…?…it’s something that envelopes so much negative energy that it takes time then to reflect and give thought to etc…and Hanah took that time because I think that’s natural also and something many of us can relate to..not now/not right at this moment/ I can’t hug and make up, type thing because she would have felt that to be a false gesture…?…whereas Martha showed quite extremes of character there and less balanced…she went from…yeah girl, go get your wingman, let’s do this …!!!!!!!!….to oh besties, I love you type thing…which hmmmmm is much less balanced and level as Hanah…but sadly I’m thinking that Hanah might more get the ‘labelling’ of ‘aggression’….

[Beso]

Originally Posted by BBXX

I thought that was hilarious.

Martha must have been thinking, me and my big mouth.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Oliver_W

It's the kind of thing I'd do, if I know someone doesn't like me I deliberately sit with them and force conversation

[Gusto Brunt]

Originally Posted by Katmieow

I like her,she's not taking any nonsense.

And may I say, she looked very curvy in her eviction night dress.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

That's how I see it now on reflection , plus people are leaving out the fact Thomas told her to "shut up", which was kind of rude .

I still wish Nathan got mud thrown at him though lol .

But if he had done it,it would be different,Yes ?

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

…one of the things that I really like with Hanah…?…all of her responses during the escalation of the row might not have been textbook perfect…?..but regardless of fault and where it lay in different parts of it all…?…it’s something that envelopes so much negative energy that it takes time then to reflect and give thought to etc…and Hanah took that time because I think that’s natural also and something many of us can relate to..not now/not right at this moment/ I can’t hug and make up, type thing because she would have felt that to be a false gesture…?…whereas Martha showed quite extremes of character there and less balanced…she went from…yeah girl, go get your wingman, let’s do this …!!!!!!!!….to oh besties, I love you type thing…which hmmmmm is much less balanced and level as Hanah…but sadly I’m thinking that Hanah might more get the ‘labelling’ of ‘aggression’….

yeah not sure what to make of that, some people can blow though and then its done and dusted, I think Martha liked having the backing of the group so that egged her on a bit, solo its a different matter

[vesavius]

Hanah's attitude stinks and the way that she deals with others is abysmal, but that doesn't make her wrong in that specific situation.

Hanah didn't want to say it to Lily because she wanted to not hurt her... Martha forced her to do that, intentionally putting her in an unwinnable situation... If she didn't say it again she was evil, if she did she was evil.

And then they expected her to be happy about that.

[DaturaAT]

i'm a actually a bit shocked how vile shes coming across now. her chant "alis plan did not succeed" was childish and mean, it triggers me immensely and it shows a lot of hatred. her attitude towards big brother the other day when she, Segun and Khaled were called out was not even funny anymore

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Hanah's attitude stinks and the way that she deals with others is abysmal, but that doesn't make her wrong in that specific situation.

Hanah didn't want to say it to Lily because she wanted to not hurt her... Martha forced her to do that, intentionally putting her in an unwinnable situation... If she didn't say it again she was evil, if she did she was evil.

And then they expected her to be happy about that.

I have to disagree in parts , abysmal is a bit strong.... considering she's sharing a house with someone who lives like worzel gummidge on a bad day,and she still tried to help that person..who threw it back in her face.

Yes Hanah might kick off and get loud , maybe she can control her temper more at times...but everything I'm seeing so far ,is a reaction to when someone has pushed or or been bitchy & rude to her. But it will definitely get her nominated now/ up for eviction now .

Martha put her in a no win situation for sure , and it was not nice.

[GoldHeart]

Originally Posted by Cherie

yeah not sure what to make of that, some people can blow though and then its done and dusted, I think Martha liked having the backing of the group so that egged her on a bit, solo its a different matter

Martha is fake AF , and has proved she's really a coward at heart. She went from stirring the pot & making sly digs....to then running to Hanah for a instant reconciliation of " oh I'm sorry ,oh your makeup looks good" . She's such a weird kiss arse.

She definitely was trying to please Ali and Lily, like the kid who feels left out at school, trying desperately to be a part of the gang .

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Martha is fake AF , and has proved she's really a coward at heart. She went from stirring the pot & making sly digs....to then running to Hanah for a instant reconciliation of " oh I'm sorry ,oh your makeup looks good" . She's such a weird kiss arse.



She definitely was trying to please Ali and Lily, like the kid who feels left out at school, trying desperately to be a part of the gang .

Yeah the over the top compliments are so cringe

[vesavius]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

I have to disagree in parts , abysmal is a bit strong.... considering she's sharing a house with someone who lives like worzel gummidge on a bad day,and she still tried to help that person..who threw it back in her face.

Yes Hanah might kick off and get loud , maybe she can control her temper more at times...but everything I'm seeing so far ,is a reaction to when someone has pushed or or been bitchy & rude to her. But it will definitely get her nominated now/ up for eviction now .

Martha put her in a no win situation for sure , and it was not nice.

Hanah can def be kind and thoughtful, she has a very sweet side to her, but she can also be arrogant, belittling, and show main character syndrome.

Sadly, las night she showed the worst side to herself.

BUT, yes, she was baited into it and I get how the situation was so frustrating to her.

[caprimint]

God she's so awful I cannot WAIT to vote her out

[DaturaAT]

Originally Posted by GoldHeart

Martha is fake AF , and has proved she's really a coward at heart. She went from stirring the pot & making sly digs....to then running to Hanah for a instant reconciliation of " oh I'm sorry ,oh your makeup looks good" . She's such a weird kiss arse.

She definitely was trying to please Ali and Lily, like the kid who feels left out at school, trying desperately to be a part of the gang .

i agree with a lot of this (not everything), but i dont think she does it out of malice. i think she has been quite an outsider in real life and the house and yea i guess she wants to be liked - and she does that in a pretty awkward and and probably fake way

oh and please take it the wrong way: she's very british-polite, she makes compliments and wishes a good day even when she's sad or angry and doesn't really speak her true emotions. might be considered fake, might aswell be just a coping / hiding mechanism

[DaturaAT]

Originally Posted by vesavius

Hanah can def be kind and thoughtful, she has a very sweet side to her, but she can also be arrogant, belittling, and show main character syndrome.

Sadly, las night she showed the worst side to herself.

BUT, yes, she was baited into it and I get how the situation was so frustrating to her.

agree, that arrogant side is very off putting though. i think shes very smart and a caring person, but she can be absolutely vile. and her reaction was a huge part why this argument was so big